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[-Peter]

Originally Posted by zulu

Thats rubbish peter,they dont need to be hot or cold they just need to be maintained that they get some moderate heat if they need it or be able to move away,yeh i used to keep vens for many years before someone asks.

Im sorry, which part is rubbish.
The bit about plenty of advice so far?
The bit about referring to a vet with more knowledge or the bit about not being like carpets?

Oh, the smart comment at the beginning, pot calling the kettle me thinks.