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[Jason]

th problem is, is as you said in you last line when ever you get a bit back it goes back into the hobby, generaly you end upi putting in more then you get out. im sure there are exceptions, i would imagen breeding albinos, gtp etc would leave you with some cash left over, but as for breeding carpets antaresia etc, unless ou have something special imo you dont get any real gains in terms of cash.
for those who want to make money out of breeding a few pairs of macs etc.. how much is your time worth to you? i might get 10 hatchies worth 200 each, after taking into account the enclosure, incubator, feed etc you may just brake even, this is without taking into account the man hours that need to go into getting hatchies feeding etc.. imo not many hobbiests will make money, they may however get enough as you said to cover there costs and other small purchases.