hmmm what gets me is it's bad to kill a rat by freezing, drowning etc etc. Yet it's ok for us to set out rat bate that kills them slowly and they suffer, put out rat traps that smash them and god only knows what else yet it's not ok to kill them any other way then gassing or snapping there necks

. Yet what makes me laugh is if you had a room full of people that say killing rats for food in a manner other than CO2 etc is bad and had a heap of rats running around them they would be screeming to get them lol, yet while there in a cage and look all cute and cuddly you don't wanna hurt them. I think if u can't handle the fact that there are going to be snakes that on the odd occasion need live food then don't own them, there not a pet dog or cat.