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[sengir]

Jason as to your post about "IN THE WILD" in the relativity of things snakes as compared to dogs ARE WILD, how long has the dog been domesticated as to the reptile. I am not sure on the exact number but I think you could safely say a least hundreds of years, so comparing a dog to a reptile is being very simple and not really thinking your argument through. I don;t mean offense but really think about it, how in anyway do either of the two really relate in the terms of domestication, they don't really, multi generation captive bred in snake terms generally mean probably 20 predecessor lines of captive breeding which would be about 50 to 60 years at max, dogs is like hundreds or thousands of times previously captive bred, I can't explain it properly but I would hope you should all understand what I mean. So in no way can you compare reptiles to dogs. barely any of there requirements other than food and water are remotely the same.

I agree with a few things I saw in the thread. Snakes are not actually wild but are not domesticated, and I do agree that people should use this term to treat their reptiles badly, but at the same time the fact that they are one of the newest "pets" you can own or even call it one of the latest fads means that they are not all that "domesticated" hence they do need very similar conditions to what they would have to in the wild.
Hatchies are born with instincts and it takes a lot and I mean a lot of "captive" breeding to wipe out instincts, so until the original "wild" instincts are bred out of the retile keeping conditions and occasionally refering to retiles in the WILD manner cannot hurt just helps people realise and to keep them as natuaral as possible which can in no way hurt them. It can only hurt them through the lazy people who use the examples that you posted to hurt them, which by the way I do not condone, it is people like this who should not have reptiles

Have a good night
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