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    2012 and we're now OK with hybrids?

    I just love the fact that so many people that support the making these 'Morelia milkshakes' use to openly appose hybrids. I like the look of a good looking jag but after only a few years I have no trust in the 'Morelia market'. I'm already doubting purity from some of the 'big breeders'... said really.
    Already I see some people selling 'coastal jags' that aren't pure coastal, some have atleast 25% murray darling. The prob is that some guys will breed these to coastals and sell sibs as coastals when in fact they aren't pure. You'd have to be a complete ignorant clown to say this isn't and wont continue to happen. BUT it seems we've all jumped ship and are openly supporting this now?

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    I don't, they're shite and will never like cross breeds.
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    i personally have no problem with them, but i wouldnt go to far out of my way to breed them, like every hobby people will have diffrent opinons with everything

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    Nah, we've just argued till we're blue in the face. I wouldn't trade a childreni for all the mutant twitchy mongrels in the world, but there are plenty who love 'em.
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    I think it's a bit like cats and dogs. I used to show dogs for a couple of years and in those days, some breeds had their tails docked. There was always arguements about it. Now, it's illegal to dock...I was always against it. Now some "designer" dogs are considered ok to show and are considered breeds in their own right. However some purists will never agree. I'm long out of the show scene now and have a little rescue cross.

    I think the same will apply to repiles, there'll always be the purists, and there'll be the ones who like a mix.....each to his own I reckon.
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    The problem comes with people breeding for profit. Trying to get RP caramel silkback hypo het for technicolour bredli, a percentage will be what you want, others will look like regular old bredli..they often get sold as pure bredli, though, as no one wants an 'ugly' hybrid. Eventually we could end up like the aquarium industry- I'm driving a 6 hour round trip tomorrow to get a pure breed of cichlid, cause every one I've come acoss has been hybridised to some degree, even though the owners have no idea.

    ARGH..why am I debating this issue again?? Might just take my meds and go sit in the corner til this all blows over again.
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    Your poll doesn't include option an for people that are ok with JAGs and the breeding of them, but also want to have and promote pure lines, there is room for both in the PET trade, anyone who cannot see that by now is kidding themselves.

    Also I wonder if you cannot trust someone about them telling the truth about purity then why would you be dealing with them in the first place?
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    Hell no don't want jags !!!!!
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    Totally agree with Geckoman. Have your jag projects and keep pure lines pure. Simple!!

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    Totally against it!! IMO....
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    You're missing the point of the poll. read the question and answer again... is it now more accepted then before? i.e. have you changed you view on the situation. this wasn't started as another for or against thread that a bunch of people just talk crap. We have plenty of them on here! It was aimed at a specific question. IMO it seems many have jumped ship and no longer appose it. Has your view on hybrids changed? peoples views use to be very passionately apposed to hybrids etc but it seems that some of those same people have changed views on the topic. Why?

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    The hobby has definitely changed a lot in the last few years, personally I feel that some people will be okay with it and others won't be okay with it. As a hobby I don't think we can say yes or no yet. Personally I feel that cross-breeding morelia is the same as cross-breeding dogs and its been done for years and years and years! So as long as the pythons are well kept, healthy and it is not done purely for profit I have no problem with it.

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    I don't mind a few hybrids here and there, I think a lot of them are nice. Personally, I don't wish to breed them myself, and I hope other breeders that are out there doing the crosses, keep some pure stuff going too, but good on them for doing something new. It wouldn't be the fact of the hybrids that'll upset me, it'd be if we were ever to turn out like the states and other international keepers. I don't want crosses to flood our market.

    Bottom line for me is, keep pure lines, at the end of the day, they're the most beautiful pythons in the world.

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    There might be room for both but believe me there are plently of people who will have nothing to do with people on the hybrid side of the fence.
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    Its a quicker easier way of getting colour mutations rather than spend countless years and many generations line breeding and the animals should be stronger and less prone to ailments if they are like other crossbred animals
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