Is your snake cage defensive?

[thomasssss]

By no means shape or form trying to start an argument but there are cases of people that have been "chased" by brown/taipan's (don't know which species exactly) around the Gladstone-rockhampton to Mackay region. Is something is chasing you then to me that says its defending the location where it is currently at...would you not agree? (remember not trying to start an arugment or anything just clarifying for future reference )

are you serious or just joking ? snakes dont chase people that myth is spread australia wide

[morelia_mad]

Hoop snakes do

[thomasssss]

morelia_mad - are they the ones that bite their tail and roll after you

[morelia_mad]

Yep, thats the ones. Evil buggers

[thomasssss]

yea i think there the brown snakes that crossed over with carpets or was it a taipan with a diamond

[Skelhorn]

are you serious or just joking ? snakes dont chase people that myth is spread australia wide

Regardless of whether he followed it or not to antagonise it, it clearly chases him for several meters, stops then goes back the direction it was originally heading in. It clearly shows the snake coming after him with its mouth open!
Don't chase Brown Snakes (Pseudonaja nuchalis) - YouTube

The case I heard from an incident report when two works hoped out of their vehicle and came acrossed an angry ven. It chased one around the side of the vehicle.

Like I said not trying to start arguments but people don't make up incidents for work cause it requires paper work and the video shows a brown chasing the camera man. Clearly chasing him!

[Waterrat]

By no means shape or form trying to start an argument but there are cases of people that have been "chased" by brown/taipan's (don't know which species exactly) around the Gladstone-rockhampton to Mackay region. Is something is chasing you then to me that says its defending the location where it is currently at...would you not agree? (remember not trying to start an arugment or anything just clarifying for future reference )

I am afraid it's not like that. The cases you're referring to are invariably classical self-defence. Some species and some individuals take it little bit further, that's all. It's easy to test; pick up the "chaser", take him a kilometre away, put him on the ground and approach him in the same manner you did the first time. He will chase you again.
If there taipans and brown were protecting the space, they would then be displaying territorial behaviour - we know that snakes are not territorial. Territorial animals have even distribution (in the wild), snakes have random distribution.

[Skelhorn]

I am afraid it's not like that. The cases you're referring to are invariably classical self-defence. Some species and some individuals take it little bit further, that's all. It's easy to test; pick up the "chaser", take him a kilometre away, put him on the ground and approach him in the same manner you did the first time. He will chase you again.
If there taipans and brown were protecting the space, they would then be displaying territorial behaviour - we know that snakes are not territorial. Territorial animals have even distribution (in the wild), snakes have random distribution.

Cheers,

Realise now its self defence, but was mealy pointing out regardless of self defence or "defending location" the snake did chase

Thanks

[thomasssss]

Regardless of whether he followed it or not to antagonise it, it clearly chases him for several meters, stops then goes back the direction it was originally heading in. It clearly shows the snake coming after him with its mouth open!
Don't chase Brown Snakes (Pseudonaja nuchalis) - YouTube

The case I heard from an incident report when two works hoped out of their vehicle and came acrossed an angry ven. It chased one around the side of the vehicle.

Like I said not trying to start arguments but people don't make up incidents for work cause it requires paper work and the video shows a brown chasing the camera man. Clearly chasing him!

i don't want to argue either , just wanted to ask if you where serious or having a joke , your serious thats ok ill accept your view and leave it at that

[Skelhorn]

i don't want to argue either , just wanted to ask if you where serious or having a joke , your serious thats ok ill accept your view and leave it at that

Respect!

This must not be APS.....When have people ever accepted ones views

[notechistiger]

I don't believe that's really chasing. That's more aggressively defending. You can see the snake lunge at him for a bit then retreat. I think a real aggressively chasing snake would keep chasing until they got it. My imo, of course.

[thomasssss]

I don't believe that's really chasing. That's more aggressively defending. You can see the snake lunge at him for a bit then retreat. I think a real aggressively chasing snake would keep chasing until they got it. My imo, of course.

thats my view on it , the myth i was referring to is when people say they where chased for a km through the bush yet they never looked back to see if the snake was still there

[Snowman]

I am going to make myself a dick again for repeting what has been said many times before: "cage defence / protectiveness" is a myth spun by people who know very little about animal behaviour and are unable to correctly interpret such.

^^^ what he said...

It's more to do with them being trapped and having nowhere to escape to. A big hand or hook coming at them head on can be a bit stressful for some animals. That's why they often calm down when they are out of the cage and dont feel as threatened.

[Waterrat]

Chasing or whatever you want to call it is just a slight extension of other "bluff" or threatening display some snakes put on; e.g. flattening, hissing, raising the forepart of their bodies into a S shape, gaping, etc..
Another commonly encountered confusion is between territory and home range. Snakes don't defend their home ranges.

[Skelhorn]

thats my view on it , the myth i was referring to is when people say they where chased for a km through the bush yet they never looked back to see if the snake was still there

True dat!