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09-Jul-03, 12:15 AM
| | Seller | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Western Sydney | | | On Totally Wild on monday there was an albino spotted python (Liasis maculosus), beautiful pure white snake. Apparently some1 found it in a caravan and it is now captive at some fauna park on display (didnt mention which one). Dont know how long it has been captive for but it was adult size in the footage, its very lucky to have survived that long in the wild.
A related question to think about... with the recent discussion on hybrids, what are peoples' thoughts on breeding albinos for captive trade (remembering that it is a natural occurance) ?, I personally would love to have some. | 
09-Jul-03, 01:22 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: May-03 Location: Sh*t Creek | | | | Ummmmmmmmm. I dont think it is really possible. I know there is some one who is sellin a colony of olives with an albino gene in them but im ot sure that you can really breed snakes to become albinos, well with ozzie snakes ne way. I think if it was possible it would have been done by now.
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on a lighter note ill get to work with the albino NT carpet next year as it is coming back to TWP woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 
09-Jul-03, 02:28 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Nunya | | | | Yeah I saw that snake as well,very nice.
Brodie why would you think it not possible to breed for albino with ozzie snakes?I would think it perfectly possible with line breeding of stock carrying the necessary recessive genes for "albino".In theory a percentage(of any given offspring from such a pairing) would be normal,another lot carrying the gene for albino and some getting a double dose of the albino gene and showing up as such.
cheers M........ | 
09-Jul-03, 02:33 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: May-03 Location: Sh*t Creek | | | | because, a bloke in humpty doo has been trying to that for ages with olives and it hasn't worked. And i am read some where (not sure how good the info is can't even remember where i read it so...) that it has been tried with other species of snakes but I am not sure just don't think it would be possible. | 
09-Jul-03, 07:28 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: sunshine coast QLD | | | | if both parents are albino then there is a 50/50 chnce that the off spring will either be albino or have an albino gene
if both parents have the albino gene then there is a 25/75 chance of alino offsping and a 50/50 chance of of the have the gene | 
09-Jul-03, 09:23 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-03 Location: No where | | | | Albinos are just freaks of nature they can turn up anywhere and in any animal. To breed albinos you need to have some albino genes or it's not likely.
Albinos are possible in any animal.
Brodie, The guy with the olives (Gavin) did actually breed albinos but he start with an albino male which was a fluke of breeding.
The bloodline was weak with the male only fathering a handful of hatchlings including two albinos but these had deformities. The original male and one of the hatchling have now died last time i heard.
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09-Jul-03, 09:25 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Sydney, NSW | | | | it is possible for any species of snake to have albino babies just as long as it carrys the albino gene. | 
09-Jul-03, 09:42 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: north queensland | | | | albinos hi everyone..
no ones is right in somany ways.
yep the olives did produce two visual albino olives both with birth defects.
the father and 1 baby have sinced died and am uncertain of how the other is going.
there were 40 suposed gene carrying offspring from the origanal male that was found in the wild.
there was also a albino darwin carpet found in the territory that has now made its way into a collection.
the albino gene is a defect as it is in every other species of animals, people included. this so called gene produces defects at birth in all the species that it infiltrates.
eg usally eye problems ( as with the olives ) deafness in mamals as well. also mutitude of skin problems
but after saying that. every albino reptile that i have seen really have been specail to look at. the maccy was an out standing looking animal
but i am in suport of breeders of most other animal. eg :dogs etc in that visual albino should either be sterilised or uthanased and not used in future breeding programes
and yes i know its easy to say that now, and if i ever produce albino babys could i still hold the same opinion. well i dont know..lol guess will have to wait and see..lol
just some thoughts
cheers paul. | 
09-Jul-03, 10:05 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: May-03 Location: In Front Of My Jungles | | | | Its already been done with Darwin Carpet Pythons. I think that is the reason Brodie that you are getting the Darwin back. You should see them, white background with light yellow banding! | 
09-Jul-03, 11:30 AM
| | | | Any offspring from an amenalistic animal would carry the albino gene as it would be heterozygous.However as Paul has stated this seems to be a deformality and can be witnessed as such with Gavins olives.This olive produced 50% possible hets by breeding the amenalistic species with a normal,but many offspring were birth defects having blindness etc.IMO they are a beautiful looking snake but one that wasn't mutated or fancy bred without health risks... | 
09-Jul-03, 11:48 AM
| | | | I hate albino snakes but with indian ringneck parrots put a green/blue/lutino male with a lutino/blue hen and there is a 6.25% u will breed albino males and a 6.25% you will breed albino females. they r not demented like fluke albinos because the parents are big birds so the young r strong and healthy so mabey if ya put 2 snakes together to and they have an albino annnd if its strong breed with it then breed with the split albino babies to try and breed a really strong gene then they might throw a good size albino thats gust my opinion. I still dont like freak snakes! | 
09-Jul-03, 01:06 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-03 Location: No where | | | | What snakes do you like? You seem to hate alot of reptiles.
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09-Jul-03, 01:10 PM
| | | | I dont like albino snakes exotic snakes or black and gold jungles. Thats gust my oppinion. | 
09-Jul-03, 01:14 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-03 Location: No where | | | | 40 offspring doesn't seem like much for an olive to sire. Especially how many times they tried breeding him. He can't have been a real strong breeder or close to being sterile.
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09-Jul-03, 01:22 PM
| | | | there the only reptiles i dont like dont ask me y because i have no idea. |  | | |