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11-Jun-07, 10:40 AM
|  | Snake Charmer Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: No where close to u..... Age/Gender: 28  | | | Hi Guys, I was hoping to get a care sheet for these snakes...... I wana buy some from the trader but need to get all the info that I can b4 I get them........ I did check the WIKI but didn't find any there... Also googled it but most of the info there is very general.... Thanks a lot...
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11-Jun-07, 01:03 PM
|  | steve Subscriber | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: gold coast Gender:  | | | g'day mate
you need to have the water about 30 c all the time and plenty of natural plants. dont do complete water changes. its also good to have the water neutralised from chlorine.they dont like to be handled , also they are supceptibale to fungle problems and stress related problems. never put to many fish in at once. also becarefull what fish you put in there and make sure the fish are not diseased . my file snakes died so did my other mates and they where from the same clutch, im not sure if it was a genetic problem but when we got them sent from darwin to gold coast they were accidently sent to sydney missied flight and they had to stay down there over night. when we got them the next day they were ice cold. mine lived for about a year his died in about 8 months. i noticed that the day i got them they had white spots and i try'd getting rid of it but just got worse and there was no one in my area that could treat the infection. it was a bad time for me to see this happen. i would like to try again but would need more info . i would call currumbin wild life center they have one now and im sure that they have a good knowledge in keeping them. i would also use natural rock basicly you need to transfer there natural enviroment. im going to try again but will get more info. good luck let us know how u go. they are a really nice snake. they take about 14 years to mature also give live birth. they eat fish .
they dont like to be removed all the time and becare full they will climb out of there water. i also still have my complete set up. also use good filters heater dont use cheep stuff and alway keep a spare heater. keep in touch im really intersted in these guys and want to start again. i think when they get stress it causes there immune system to drop to a low level and manafest to disease like fungle infections also there skin being like file dose collect stuff in the water if they have no way of fightin the bacteria it can cause them to get sick. they shed like any other snake and eyes go milky. if there is any thing eles feel free to ask.
cheers steve. steve.snake@bigpond.com
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11-Jun-07, 01:08 PM
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11-Jun-07, 01:51 PM
|  | Snake Charmer Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: No where close to u..... Age/Gender: 28  | | | | Thanks elapid, will call the sanctuary to get some info tomorrow and will let u know what they said....... Also will b in touch with u... All the best with u the new snakes when u get them..... cheers
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12-Jun-07, 12:21 AM
|  | Snake Charmer Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: No where close to u..... Age/Gender: 28  | | | | some questions....... Can these snakes be sexed as juvies??? If so, can they be housed in the same aquarium??? What kind of ph levels should I try and maintain???
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12-Jun-07, 11:43 AM
|  | Regular Member | | | | | PH at around 7.
OK to be kept together as long as living together isn't stressing one or both of them and you can monitor food intake.
I have no idea if they can be sexed as juveniles. Never tried.
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12-Jun-07, 12:09 PM
|  | Snake Charmer Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: No where close to u..... Age/Gender: 28  | | | | thanks for that Wrasse......... I was wondering if they could be probed... I did read some where that the best way to sex them is visually as these snakes are so fat that it's not a good idea to probe them..... Is this correct??? Since these snakes are know to have equal number of males and females in a clutch, I was wondering if it would be possible to tell the difference between the males and the females when they are born........ Do let me know........ Have sent the seller a message but haven't heard from him yet........
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12-Jun-07, 01:17 PM
|  | steve Subscriber | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: gold coast Gender:  | | | | mine where sexed and i had mine together and there wasn't a problem with that. about the ph levels ,(after you neutrlize the water of 1drop per litre of aquarium water or 5ml per 50L) take a sample to a aquarium place and they will tell you what the ph level is or will help you get it to its right level. Even know your snakes dont breath under water , you will be puting in live fish(in small amount, remember you dont want to stress the snake's out) the fish still must stay healthy because your snake will consume them fish can catch disease pretty quick. fish benifit from a 25% fortnightly water change using water treatment and conditioner, thats where it get confusing because i was told if you change the water too much it can stress the snakes out. but there is a way , taking the water outs fine i would add the the water diluted and then poor it in very slow next to your filter so the snakes dont feel a sudden cold change, or you could have a spare heater getting the water to the right temp. most aquarium heaters have built in thermostat so you shouldn't need one for that but i still used a safety swich.
how did you go with currumbin did they give you any info on them.? ask for kurt he might still be there he's really good when it comes to that sort of thing.hes the man who looks after the reptiles and dose snake shows.
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12-Jun-07, 01:45 PM
|  | Snake Charmer Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: No where close to u..... Age/Gender: 28  | | | | Steve, thats a lot of good info mate....... Thanks a lot for that........ I recon I would heat the water with heater and then add it in....... When u say add a few fish at a time, does that mean that these snakes have a good success rate with catching their prey?? Cos I intend on buying a 3foot tank for the two for a start so what quantity of fish would I add into it?????? I still haven't called the place but will in a day or two.... Also I will ask for Kurt..... Thanks again......
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12-Jun-07, 02:02 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-04 Gender:  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by elapid@ g'day mate
you need to have the water about 30 c all the time and plenty of natural plants. dont do complete water changes. its also good to have the water neutralised from chlorine.they dont like to be handled , also they are supceptibale to fungle problems and stress related problems. never put to many fish in at once. also becarefull what fish you put in there and make sure the fish are not diseased . my file snakes died so did my other mates and they where from the same clutch, im not sure if it was a genetic problem but when we got them sent from darwin to gold coast they were accidently sent to sydney missied flight and they had to stay down there over night. when we got them the next day they were ice cold. mine lived for about a year his died in about 8 months. i noticed that the day i got them they had white spots and i try'd getting rid of it but just got worse and there was no one in my area that could treat the infection. it was a bad time for me to see this happen. i would like to try again but would need more info . i would call currumbin wild life center they have one now and im sure that they have a good knowledge in keeping them. i would also use natural rock basicly you need to transfer there natural enviroment. im going to try again but will get more info. good luck let us know how u go. they are a really nice snake. they take about 14 years to mature also give live birth. they eat fish .
they dont like to be removed all the time and becare full they will climb out of there water. i also still have my complete set up. also use good filters heater dont use cheep stuff and alway keep a spare heater. keep in touch im really intersted in these guys and want to start again. i think when they get stress it causes there immune system to drop to a low level and manafest to disease like fungle infections also there skin being like file dose collect stuff in the water if they have no way of fightin the bacteria it can cause them to get sick. they shed like any other snake and eyes go milky. if there is any thing eles feel free to ask.
cheers steve. steve.snake@bigpond.com
0423906074. | Damn elapid@ wish you were on here when i was last looking at buying some of these.
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12-Jun-07, 06:15 PM
|  | steve Subscriber | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: gold coast Gender:  | | | | when i started mine they ate feeder fish then moved on to gold fish. and there success rate on catching them was about 90% they ambush so they stay there and mimic a branch and wait for the food to come to them but some times they swam around and grabed there food, and it looks cool because the fish are still swimming around in there belly for a few seconds so dont be alarmed it all right.when they bite there prey they rap around the fish ,the fish basicly swimms down there throet. i used to put 10 feeder fish in at a time when they got bigger i gave them gold fish about 2-6 but i also had a spare tank with a filter etc for the fish to live in until they become food. but you dont need a heater for that. the most impotant thing is your snakes are in good health - to keep them that way is for the fish to be in good health the snakes are nocturnal and do like to hide , when they get to a good size they should be pretty hardy . they are a snake just to look at and if every thing is fine they should live a long time.
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12-Jun-07, 06:30 PM
|  | UNIT Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: Sunny Sylvania Age/Gender: 30  | | | try this web site http://www.arafurae.net/. I found this when i was looking at getting some but the breeder i found had 30 hatchlings and they all got that fungal infection so they ancelled the sale and i didnot hear from them again. It seems to me that if someone who is succsessful enough to breed them and they still have trouble with white spot it must be a bloody hard thing to avoid or treat. good luck and post pics.
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12-Jun-07, 06:46 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: Queanbeyan NSW | | | | I know Pete at Canberra Exotics has had these snakes for ages, and his look very healthy, he could give some great info. I love watchin those guys eat fish.
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12-Jun-07, 06:47 PM
|  | Snake Charmer Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: No where close to u..... Age/Gender: 28  | | | | Hi guys, just picked up the tank and the heater today... Also some drift wood and plants.. Still have to buy a canister filter and a ariater..... Don't intend on using gravel for obvious reasons........ Will start working on the water as soon as I get a chance........ lol The funny thing is, the seller still hasn't gotten in touch with me........
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