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04-Apr-04, 06:01 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Mar-04 Location: sydney | | | Australian snakes-a natural history Richard Shine
does anyone have this book? I have a question, on page 126 it shows the tails of male and female snakes. the writing beneath says the male is at the bottom with a thicker tail base[to accomodate hemipenes] but bottom pic shows thinner more tapered tail. is this a mistake? should it be male at the top?[shows thicker tail base. and female at bottom? if you have the book please help.
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04-Apr-04, 07:18 PM
| | Seller | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Western Sydney | | | |
mate i am lookinh at the pic right now, there is very little difference in the 2 snakes, but if you look at the lower snake (male), after the vent there is a few single scales then they become divided. At the first divided scale after the singles the shape of the tail slightly bulges out then goes thinner again, whereas on the female (top), it tapers roughly evenly. As i said before, there is very little difference and would probably be unnoticeable if it wasnt pointed out in pic
hope that helps
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04-Apr-04, 07:30 PM
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Hey now i see what he means...thanks heaps! | 
04-Apr-04, 07:38 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Sydney | | | |
Yeah, I have the book as well and had troubles with that pic, thanks for pointing it out.
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04-Apr-04, 07:40 PM
|  | biasedly unbiased Moderator | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Wagga Wagga NSW 2650 Gender:  | | | |
Love the avatar
Is that you in the pic?
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You have the right to an opinion. Unfortunately, you appear to have chosen the wrong one.
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04-Apr-04, 07:43 PM
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its a snake or steve irwin
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04-Apr-04, 08:51 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Melbourne O>I>G>L Souly! | | | |
Same thing isn't it ?
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04-Apr-04, 09:20 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-04 Location: G>F>A>C AFRO!! | | | |
how much is that book to buy? is it any good?
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04-Apr-04, 10:06 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Melbourne O>I>G>L Souly! | | |
It is an excellent publication, pity you don't live near me or you could check out my copy to see if you liked it | 
04-Apr-04, 10:33 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-04 Location: G>F>A>C AFRO!! | | | |
maybe you could send me a pm and i might be able to come and meet up with you sometime. i see your also in melbourne!
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04-Apr-04, 11:05 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Melbourne O>I>G>L Souly! | | | |
Yes indeed but way out in Newport! Doubt if you could make it that far without a packed lunch and a map!
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04-Apr-04, 11:20 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-04 Location: G>F>A>C AFRO!! | | | |
you could be right, maybe i should call for a taxi he might no the way to newport.......is newport anywhere near mornington?
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04-Apr-04, 11:35 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Melbourne O>I>G>L Souly! | | | |
Where's Mornington?
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05-Apr-04, 11:47 AM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Mar-04 Location: Brisbane | | | |
its a great book and Prof Richard Shine is a great man just enter his name in a google search and just see the amount of work he has done in herpetology...sexing snake can be difficult at the best of times....
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05-Apr-04, 11:54 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Sydney | | | |
BTW soulweaver, the book is just under $30
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