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13-Nov-07, 08:59 AM
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Cheers guys, there's 3 different snakes there lol.
First 2 aren't mine, last one is.
As for heat pits mate, there there, she is an old girl, with a big head! lol.
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13-Nov-07, 10:21 AM
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Good point Scott, we forget that the Barkers and most american breeders have the privilage importing these animals. The animals themselves are collected by locals and after collecting hundreds of these snakes for the pet trade who really knows where they came from. Usually they are collected and placed in old oil drums. And once a month someone comes around a collects all the snakes from the villages. I dont trust reports. Unless someone caught and actually documented the animals accurately its all heresay!!!!!
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13-Nov-07, 11:48 AM
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So argumentative!
No, I'm not saying that the Cogger or the Barkers personally collected them, I'm not sure why you feel the need to be sarcastic. These authorities (and others), do (or at least did) believe that they had been collected there by other people. I'm asking whether or not you know how the snakes were recorded on the islands in the first place. For a long time it was thought (and apparently still is) by several highly respected authorities that the snakes were there, so, if you are making the claim that they are not there, you must know something about those original records. As someone who has gone out into the field quite a lot, you know very well that it's not at all uncommon to search hard for a long time and not find something, even when it's quite common in an area. Not finding something doesn't prove it isn't there, finding something does prove that it is there (yes, mistakes are made with records, I know), so positive records are more valuable than negative records. I am not looking for a fight as you seem to assume, sorry, I know you love them but some people are more interested in learning. No one benefits from a squabble, I am just interested in knowing what the situation is with Leiopython in Torres Straight. If you have something useful to say, please do so, if you'd rather squabble and be sarcastic, knock yourself out.
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Originally Posted by eipper  John,
qm has done alot of work on those islands and are yet to record them there
Are you saying that Hal Cogger and the barkers caught them there, or that they have been collected by someone from there?
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13-Nov-07, 02:41 PM
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I was under the impression it was Morelia albertisii? When did the name change happen???? In 1990 the name was changed to Morelia albertisii? I just dont get it? Is there a different classification system that reptile experts go by in Australia???
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13-Nov-07, 07:33 PM
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melenistic darwin
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13-Nov-07, 07:36 PM
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I don't like albinos much, but I would be prepared to pay a pretty penny for a jet black python.
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13-Nov-07, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Viridae I don't like albinos much, but I would be prepared to pay a pretty penny for a jet black python. | I totally agree!!! Those black diamonds and that darwin are just so stunning!!!
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13-Nov-07, 07:59 PM
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Not being saracastic at all john.....I just can't see how they could be there in the first place, those Mud islands that they are "recorded from" are not the right habitat.
So I stand by my original comment that they are not in Australia or its territories outside of the couple that were in a collection in South Australia.
I believe the records are similar to the 2 records of a Western Australian Ctenotus from near Inveloch in Victoria, while they are technically valid the still most likely in error.
Cheers,
Scott Eipper
I would more than happy to eat humble pie if the record is proven without doubt, but at this stage I doubt they will be found.
Cheers,
Scott
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14-Nov-07, 09:03 PM
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I'm all in for the melanistic darwins... that is just lovely...
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14-Nov-07, 09:19 PM
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That Darwin is crazy.....
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14-Nov-07, 10:29 PM
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Not a "black python" as such, but here's my b&w diamond.
Matt
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14-Nov-07, 10:31 PM
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Any full body shots Matt? That python is stunning.
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14-Nov-07, 10:42 PM
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Thanks jp2.
I found this photo if it will do. Closest to a full body shot I can find at the moment.
Cheers,
Matt
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15-Nov-07, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Viridae I don't like albinos much, but I would be prepared to pay a pretty penny for a jet black python. | I agree too!! Shame there aren't many around
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30-Nov-07, 08:38 PM
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Wouldn't mind seeing a 'jet black olive python'
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