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10-Mar-07, 02:58 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Aug-06 Location: NSW | | | If you would care to focus a little closer on what I am actually saying then you would not go offcourse quite so much!  It does not disturb me that rats are bred solely for the purpose of being fed to snakes. It disturbs me that people use some methods of killing them which are generally believed to be much more unpleasant for the animal than some other methods.
I have no doubt that I am going to die some day. I would prefer to pass away peacefully in my sleep than be bashed to death, or burned to death in a horrible house fire, or mauled to death by a wild boar. I extend the same consideration of the least unpleasant death possible to all creatures whose death I have the responsibility of.
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10-Mar-07, 03:26 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: CQ | | | Here is a picture of a rat who was alivei na freezer for 13 years!!! 
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10-Mar-07, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by waruikazi  So i'm full of myself for sharing the way i kill my pinky rats? And then justifying my decision? | IMO Yep  The Frezer is not a humane way.
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10-Mar-07, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Python Gal Also give your coastals a livey every now and then! they love it!! |
Also a great way for your snake to get injured or worse from being bitten/attacked. Great advice. How long have you been keeping snakes??????
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10-Mar-07, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Python Gal Id rather just chuck it in live and let nature take its course, as thats what snakes so out in the wild...[/color] |  |
10-Mar-07, 05:06 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-06 Location: queensland | | | | Quote::: Python Gal ,,I've been breeding my rats for over a year, and i always use the same method.
Also give your coastals a livey every now and then! they love it!! It'll save you having to freeze it!! :-D
Another so called expert giving bad advise to new owners, twelve months pftt you know nothing about culling rodents especially if you feed live to your snakes.JMO
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10-Mar-07, 05:12 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Dec-06 Location: Kalgoorlie WA Age: 26 | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Python Gal there are a variety of other ways to kill a rat which are vastly kinder than freezing it!
Well please inform us of how you kill your rats for your snakes?? Knocking it over the head, isnt nice! Co2 may kill them quicker, but thats not nice either. Id rather just chuck it in live and let nature take its course, as thats what snakes so out in the wild... | dislocating its neck is the quickest way hold it in your hand and push in and up with your thumb on back of neck., also on your licence conditions it states:
"no live vertebrate animals are to be used as food for pet herpetofauna held under this licence"
not saying don't but just becareful who you say this to as it can become a reason to have your licence cancelled. |
10-Mar-07, 06:09 PM
| | | | Origanally Posted by Python Gal Just freeze the pinkies, they fall asleep in the freezer. Coz they are so little they dont suffer, the faster they breathe the quicker they fall saleep. I've been breeding my rats for over a year, and i always use the same method. Just turn your freezer right up to its coldest temp and leave them over night (dont open the freezer at all). Mine don't get 5 star care, but they get enough to keep them happy and healthy.
Origanally Posted by Python Gal If you really feel for the rats, then you shouldnt keep animals that eat them!! I take care of mine, and they are given the best life (while they are alive) but i only have them for one reason, and that is FOOD!! Just like we eat cows, sheep and animals like that. Coz we have arms and legs we are able to kill, cook, and eat with a knife and fork. I dont see how its "inhumane" in the different ways peeple kill them....
PYTHON GAL:
in one post you have stated that your rats dont get 5 star treatment, yet, in another post you have stated that they are given the best of life. breeding rats for over a year doesnt make you a proffesor in the rat breeding industry, i hav been breeding rats for over 4 years, and i sure as hell dont think i am qualified to make many statements regarding the quality of rats. however, you seem to be blind to the fact that what your doing is in fact illegal and wrong and VERY inhumane.... you are making it very obvious to the rest of us that you are young and shouldnt really be allowed to keep snakes as u dont understand the concept of feeding them.
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10-Mar-07, 06:31 PM
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Well please inform us of how you kill your rats for your snakes?? Knocking it over the head, isnt nice! Co2 may kill them quicker, but thats not nice either. Id rather just chuck it in live and let nature take its course, as thats what snakes so out in the wild...[/quote]
what a load of crap, your now saying that you only feed live if they are off there food...yet, you have said in your previous post that you prefer to "chuck them in live and let nature take its course, cause thats what snakes do in the wild"
my only advice to you is sell your snakes and dont keep animals. |
10-Mar-07, 06:36 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-03 Location: here | | | | Freezing is cruel and totally uneccessary.Feeding live is asking for trouble as well as being cruel (and dont give me any BS about it being natural etc as in the confines of an enclosure its far from it).Some people have absolutely no idea whatsoever and should research more in the first place.Then there are some who are just plain ignorant and should be limited to keeping pet rocks. |
10-Mar-07, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ramsayi Freezing is cruel and totally uneccessary.Feeding live is asking for trouble as well as being cruel (and dont give me any BS about it being natural etc as in the confines of an enclosure its far from it).Some people have absolutely no idea whatsoever and should research more in the first place.Then there are some who are just plain ignorant and should be limited to keeping pet rocks. | agreed 100 % with you on the pet rocks  mel |
10-Mar-07, 06:40 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-03 Location: here | | | | Pet rocks.nuff said |
10-Mar-07, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Python Gal well that isnt very good advice. Who are you to give advice?? Yer im not saying i didnt say that. And im sure that you have done it once in your herp time, whether it be to get a hatchie to eat???? Even when i do throw a livey in, its much smaller than the snake and CAN NOT hurt the snake at all. A live rat awakens their senses, you must not know this, but yet here you are giving me advice?????? | HAHAHAHAHAHA a live rat awakens there senses and i musnt know this. oh my god. i hav been keeping snakes and other various reptiles for almost 7 years. so pls dont tell me i dont know things. but, i dont need to say anymore on the matter, as everyone on this site will agree with me, that live feeding and freezing is CRUEL and INHUMANE and IMMATURE ... grow up. |
10-Mar-07, 06:42 PM
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10-Mar-07, 06:44 PM
|  | warning, I spark! Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-05 Location: Brisbane, Australia Age/Gender: 38 | | | | i agree with mel
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