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View Poll Results: Can eastern browns be agressive?
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Old 06-Mar-07, 09:10 AM
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Yeah but what sort of bike was the brown riding?LOL
Don't kow what the brown was on but it would have had to been electric start I did tell old mate that he might want to stick a set of rings in the aggie though.
 
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Old 06-Mar-07, 11:14 AM
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Perhaps it is better to say that browns are aggressively defensive?

Say someone attacked me. To defend myself I would either block their attack or curl up in the fetal position or whatever else would protect me or make me feel safe. If I aggressively defended myself I would kick them where-it-hurts or break their nose or other "self defense" techniques. In human society you can't go around "aggressively defending" yourself every time someone makes you feel uneasy or calls you names, but as far as the animal kingdom is concerned, if you seem to threaten to them, they'll let you know about it!

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Old 06-Mar-07, 11:16 AM
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i dont believe they are aggressive, i almost stepped on one a year or 2 back and it just took off, every one i have came across just ran
 
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i think it also depends how you read the question... CAN the be aggressive....? of course

is it likely... dunno, i'd say not unless it felt threatened...

How was the question intended?
 
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Yeah but what sort of bike was the brown riding?LOL
LMAO.

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is it likely... dunno, i'd say not unless it felt threatened...
So that would be a defensive action then.

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Old 06-Mar-07, 11:49 AM
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The questions asks "can" they be aggressive? CAN being the key word.I've had to rely on that aggression or defense to lure them out of some pretty tricky positions before, in order to catch and release. But having said that...once out and perceiving no more threat they return to their normal, alert snake behaviour. So generally they're not aggressive but can be if in need of defense. That's my opinion anyway.
 
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Old 06-Mar-07, 11:49 AM
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i think browns are the jungles of the elapid world. how many people would play with jungles if the packed the punch a brown did
 
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Old 06-Mar-07, 11:55 AM
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They are what they are. But i agree with ssssnakeman
 
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Old 06-Mar-07, 12:15 PM
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I might just point out this isnt some smear campaign agaisnt brown snakes, i like them as much as any snake(provided i dont accidentally step on one). Its basic logic/instinct that if you are in a confrontation you cant avoid, that killing or incapacitating your enemy is generally the best defence.

This seems to be coming down more to a differance of opinion on word usage than anything.

Aggresive behaviour even in defense is still aggresion, i was never suggesting they will attack ppl without reason. All the Eastern browns i have ever encountered on foot have sat still, left or in one case eaten a water dragon but that is because i saw them first or they could escape easily(as the can in most cases).
 
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Old 06-Mar-07, 12:18 PM
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So defensive is agresive? Im confused.........
How about I punch you in the mouth because I think you're going to hurt me?? What do you call that??? hehehehehe (not that I would, I'm just trying to make a point )
 
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Old 06-Mar-07, 12:37 PM
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And? How many of these 'ppl' have been caught by one?
None, one only pursued for 5-10m (i have been where it happened and been shown), the other one 'chased'(for lack of better word) my great uncle on top of his vehicle after he disturbed it hiding somewhere next to his ute, it kept trying to get him but couldnt reach, its was then dispatched so its hard to know how long it would have kept going for him.

There's no denying they can defend themselves well. If I had you somewhere you couldn't escape and started belting you with a shovel what would you do?
I was never saying there is anything wrong with them and in many cases ppl deserve to be bitten as they have intentionally provoked the snake(not so in the above cases though)

I think we both have a different definition of 'aggressive' and 'defensive'.
yep sounds like it
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Old 06-Mar-07, 12:53 PM
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i dont believe they are aggressive, i almost stepped on one a year or 2 back and it just took off, every one i have came across just ran
Yeah, but that's because you are just really scary.
 
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me and my cousin got "chased" a few years ago in mackay, i was about 10 and thought it was a taipan, but was quickly told by my unaware uncle that it was a brown snake. It was very light in colour almost grey like and came from out of the storm water drain when we walked past over the grate, must have startled it or anything i wouldnt call them "Agressive"
 
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I've come across one while herping in northern Sydney one day, it just slithered of the track when I was about a metre away from it, I didn't even notice it until it was halfway of the track.

I think agression comes down to the snake, not the species.

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