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14-Mar-05, 10:16 PM
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Talking to a "Bredl" the other day. He reckons that all Pythons are basically Carpet Pythons? Why is there such a set on different names for all of them please? And why are some more expensive than others to buy? Just wondering? Thanks Chezza PS. Well, I know that Olives for example don't have patterns like Carpets or Diamonds? Well, now I'm not really sure what I'm asking now? I'm confused. LOL!
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14-Mar-05, 10:47 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Feb-05 Location: Bairnsdale, Victoria Age: 25 | | | | RE: Carpet Pythons?
Me either  Carpet pythons is the common name for Morelia Spilota then your Coastals, Darwins, Murray-Darlings, South-Westerns, Jungles, Bredli and Diamonds (last two some will disagree with) are subspecies of Carpets (hope i got them all). Olives, Waters, Black-headeds, Womas, Green Tree, Childrens, Spotted, Anthill, Stimson, Rough-scales and Scrub pythons (again hope i got them all) are not carpet pythons. Most are in totally different families.
Some are more expensive because they aren't bred as frequently, have nicer patterns or have better reputations (Darwins for example are often over looked and go cheap).
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14-Mar-05, 10:53 PM
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I'd better ask Dave in the morning what the "Bredl" guy actually said. I'm totally confused by what I said now! Grrrr!!! Don't worry, I'll get it word for word tomorrow. He actually talked for two hours with Bredl on Saturday, but I've probably got the story half-cocked eh? LOL!
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14-Mar-05, 10:55 PM
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No probs heh. Let us know what he meant, interested to know.
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14-Mar-05, 10:59 PM
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Good luck RR you'll need it 
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14-Mar-05, 11:00 PM
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Scrubies and rough scaled pythons are from the Morelia family.
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14-Mar-05, 11:04 PM
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"Most are in totally different families. "
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14-Mar-05, 11:11 PM
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I think he is referring to the Queensland museum placing most Australian pythons in Morelia, thus making them all closer related than we thought.
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15-Mar-05, 12:24 AM
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Please excuse my language but"bull "....Ask Mr Bredl if he knows the difference between a jungle and a coastal or a Vic???????????
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15-Mar-05, 04:41 AM
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Why not go one step further and just lump pythons/elapids/coloubrids together? They are all just snakes after all. Why bother making any distinctions between them.
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15-Mar-05, 10:13 AM
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I think in the beginning they probably knew no better, then they started to realise that there is a difference. They always used to lump Diamonds/Carpets together. Maybe on scale count they are quite similiar, but colour , temperament, locality(apart from the North coast) are entirely different, also the climate that they can handle! Same with all the other carpets found in different areas around Australia.
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15-Mar-05, 11:16 AM
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Are you talking about robbie bredl? if so.. i think you have your wires crossed.....
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15-Mar-05, 12:42 PM
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The Morelia spilota ssp are of course regional variations with the M. bredli and M.imbricata being species. Morelia amythistina amythistina and M.a.kinghorni are a different species as is M. oenpelliensis, M. carinata and; if you place it in morelia then; M. viridis. All the others in the M. spilota genus are accepted at least(Victoria) as regional variations or at the most(NSW) sub species.
Its like there are several species of bluetongue, subspecies and regional variations. Same thing.
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15-Mar-05, 12:43 PM
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15-Mar-05, 01:11 PM
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Was he wearing any shoes?? :roll: | | |
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