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17-Apr-07, 04:27 PM
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I had my pair out the other day for a stretch and witnessed their caudal luring for the first time. Besides being a hilarious activity for my children to watch (they were in histerics  ) I found it facinating. I am now curious as to anyone else's observations with this. (ie different species, one or both sexes) or any links that would provide a good read.
My pair are tanamis and I've read when I searched that Simon Stone has reported that his Tanamis tend to do it frequently but not his Ulurus 
Any input???
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17-Apr-07, 04:32 PM
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All of my Tanamis do it, if there is food around their tails go mad.
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17-Apr-07, 04:37 PM
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Both sexes do it, I have observed it as early as 6 month's, not seen it in younger, but they may well do so.
It makes them an interesting species to watch come feeding time dosen't it? LOL!
Neil
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17-Apr-07, 04:38 PM
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There was no food at the time, only each other, but saying that, I have never seen mine do it with food, and the girl is a guts!
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17-Apr-07, 04:41 PM
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Ncherps, I have some bubs also but have not witnessed it in them either, will watch with anticipation over the next few months, although they are SA, do they tend to do it as well??
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17-Apr-07, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tan  There was no food at the time, only each other, but saying that, I have never seen mine do it with food, and the girl is a guts! | I find that because mine don't get handled very often, just the mere act of opening up the enclosure tends to make these dustbins of the reptile world salivate with excitement at the prospect of food, and they get excited!
Not got any SA localities so can't comment on them, sorry.
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17-Apr-07, 04:50 PM
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Even if there is no food in the area as it seems, the purpose is to attract prey. so although there might not be anything there when she was doing it....it would be an attempt to attract prey closer enough to snatch it up
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17-Apr-07, 04:53 PM
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sorry for what may seem as a stupid question but what is it??? is that the thing where they like hover over the sand when they move or something???
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17-Apr-07, 04:54 PM
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If there was no food around and you had the male and female together and if they're breeding age could it have been tail wagging?  |
17-Apr-07, 04:54 PM
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Both my Uluru's do it when they know food is coming up! It's very cute as long as they aren't focusing their feeding lust on you!
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17-Apr-07, 04:55 PM
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I am not totally convinced that all caudal tail flicking is necessarily caudal luring. I say this simply because womas do it at other times as well e.g. mating times. Womas will often do this in times of excitement. We have housed and maintained over 120 womas both captive bred and wild caught and have only witnessed the tail flicking with the introduction of food with 2 specimens. Secondly if this was indeed a genuine act of caudal tail luring we would expect to find odd specimens missing tail tips in the wild and we have not. This does not automatically mean that is proof that they don't, rather just food for thought. It is interesting that Simon Stone has recognized a natural behaviour difference between to different populations and with that observation I need to add that my experience lies in the Pilbara populations only. Chondros by the way also will flick their tails when they become defensive and many inexperienced have made the mistake of assuming that hatchlings that do this are actually relaxed and in hunting mode. Often they are just freaked out.
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17-Apr-07, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by swingonthespiral sorry for what may seem as a stupid question but what is it??? is that the thing where they like hover over the sand when they move or something??? | They wiggle the end of their tail, reminds me of an excited doggie!
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17-Apr-07, 04:56 PM
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Yeah, they are being slowly cooled as we speak so here's hopin ouzo 
They're funny things.
Spiral, it means tail shaking or wagging, they rattle them like a rattlesnake I guess is the better description.
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17-Apr-07, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by swingonthespiral sorry for what may seem as a stupid question but what is it??? is that the thing where they like hover over the sand when they move or something??? | The snake sits usually in a semi-coiled ambush like position with there tail sticking out to one side wiggling the tip in a worm like fashion to act as if it was a worm or grub, so as to attract the prey item over to the snake, so it can be within striking distance.
Not to be mistaken with tail twitching which can also be observed by woma's and other species.
The caudal luring is most commonly seen in GTP's, Woma's and Death adders, but other species do it also.
Neil
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17-Apr-07, 04:59 PM
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thanks... thats really kewl...
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[CENTER][SIZE=1]7 x Coastal, 2 x Bredli, 1 x MD, 2 x Jungle, 1 x Darwin, 1 x Water Python, 1 x Woma, 1 x Intergrade + numerous on order......[/SIZE][/CENTER]
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