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13-Apr-06, 02:47 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Dec-05 Location: Turramurra, Sydney | | | Choosing the path to Elapids
Im sure this has been bought up before but here goes. Eventually i would like to get into elapids, in particular red bellies, colletts and possible down the line some other species. I have never owned a snake yet and unfortunatley had little experience with them. Towards the end of this year i am lookin to purchase my first.
My question is where would you start? I have read some people recommend pythons, some recommend snappy columbrids, so recommend going all out. The first two options are to me the most suitable. I really like the tree snakes and whip snakes. I would love to get both at some stage. I am not too interested in pythons but would be looking towards the smaller ones like macs, childreni and so forth.
So in my position what would you do?
Adam
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13-Apr-06, 02:59 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Nov-05 Location: QLD | | | |
whip snakes are not colubrids they are elapids.
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13-Apr-06, 03:04 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: May-05 Location: Adelaide Age/Gender: 25  | | | |
Can you buy a ven. snake if you haven't owned others before??
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13-Apr-06, 03:19 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-05 Location: Central Coast NSW Age: 22 | | | |
I would just keep trying to find others who have them and try getting to spend a bit of time around them..
Get a little hands on Exp..
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13-Apr-06, 03:23 PM
|  | Ford loving Snake Subscriber | Join Date: Mar-06 Location: Penrith, NSW | | | |
i heard have you have minimum of 2 years handling experience before you can get the license for them
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13-Apr-06, 03:30 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Dec-05 Location: Turramurra, Sydney | | | |
You can get some venomous snakes with no experience. There are some in catagory 1 licence. Unless i am mistaken.
And thank you for the correction on whip snakes.
Adam
Ps. I would love some hands on experience, both with kept snakes and wild so if anyone is interested in a tag along for herp adventures (when tis warmer) or to help me gain some experience it would be greatly apprieciated.
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13-Apr-06, 03:53 PM
|  | biasedly unbiased Moderator | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Wagga Wagga NSW 2650 Gender:  | | | |
There are some 'mildly' venemous snakes on class 1 but not many. It will be 2 years before you can get a Red belly black snake.
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13-Apr-06, 04:18 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-06 Location: Darwin NT Age/Gender: 23 | | | |
IMO get something small (no bigger than 3ft) and something that is really snappy, doesn't really matter what it is, alhtough a colubrid would probably be best. Go two years without ever touching it with your barehands (so you can get used to using a hook) and without getting tagged and then re-assess wether you still should, not want, but should get an elapid.
ANyway just my opinion.
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13-Apr-06, 05:04 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-06 Location: Darwin, NT Age: 17 | | | |
i agree with you waruikazi
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nah i dont want one of these
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13-Apr-06, 05:19 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-06 Location: Sydney Age: 25 | | | |
Personally, I can't see why anyone would want a Venomous snake, but that's just me.
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13-Apr-06, 05:21 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: May-05 Location: Adelaide Age/Gender: 25 | | | |
Because they are just awesome! They are no different from a python if you know how to handle them.
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13-Apr-06, 05:21 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-06 Location: Central QLD Age/Gender: 30 | | | Quote: |
Personally, I can't see why anyone would want a Venomous snake, but that's just me.
| It's all about your personal preference. There's people out there that feel the same way about snakes in general 
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13-Apr-06, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NinaPeas They are no different from a python if you know how to handle them. | That's a joke, right?
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13-Apr-06, 05:31 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: May-05 Location: Adelaide Age/Gender: 25 | | | |
If you don't know how to handle a python, you will get bitten. If you don't know how to handle a ven, you will get bitten.
(obviously with worse consequences!)
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13-Apr-06, 05:33 PM
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That's a gross oversimplification.
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