Crossing localities is it ok or is it wrong

[alumba]

Since this issue about blond Mac's has come up, I and im sure many other people would like to see how many think it is wrong and how many think it is ok

Please select one of the options it would be good to see what the result is and please be honest I don’t think your name comes up if u vote but im not completely sure.lol

Regards Alumba

[Rennie]

I personally think that if you know the locality, you should try to breed with another of the same locality to keep up the availability of location pure animals, but there are plenty of people out there who don't care and just want them for pets. Just because I don't know the locality of an animal won't stop me from breeding it. As long as you don't advertise it as something it is not, if you're not certain, don't rely on guesses.

[SnakeWrangler]

I voted yes, but I think you would have a responsibility to sell them for what they are. It would be wrong to breed a blonde mac and a normal and sell the offspring as pure blonde macs, even if it looked like a perfect blonde mac you should still be honest.

Its the same as crossing an albino with a normal, I don't think anyone cares about this do they? They are just different morphs of the same species. Although I am not sure if albino is considered a morph or not, the principal is the same, IMO.

Are blonde macs even from a distinct locality or do they occur is the same area as normals?

[indicus]

Alumba, its great to see you are passionate keeping lines pure as possible....
However if you think most herpers have got a clue where there line of Blonde mac's, jungles etc etc etc originated from, your far removed from the real picture....The fact is most dont!!!; thats the truth....unless they collected the stock themselves.... Your kidding yourself if you think otherwise...thats reality, sad but true. I'm sure there are alot however, that strive source local data on where a breeders line may have originated from......Even then; most breeders dont know, but some are knowledgeable enough to make a valid guess due to what they know and learnt over the years they may have been keeping and breeding.....some of these breeders are lucky to have lines that may have originated; before current laws prohibited the collecting of reptiles, in which case you can be somewhat confident that the line you have is pure as can be expected....

[Monkeyman]

I'm of the same opinion as rennie and snake wrangler. yes you can cross the localities if you want, but then don't try n sell it as something it isn't. The breeder should be responsible for making sure it's from a locality if they're going to be selling it as one. Otherwise there's no probs by me.

[ponybug]

i voted yes as i agree with indicus,

cheers,
steve..........

[peterescue]

if you can keep a true line it will probably pay dividends oneday but its really down to you and what you want in the end.

[the_brad]

Now when you say locality do you mean only breeding animals from the same wild colonys? I dont think most people even know the true meaning of locality, to many people belive what there told by a person but more then likely just telling you what you want to hear.

[Mr_Matt]

While we mightn't know the exact locality of the original wild ancestors of our herps, we can still make some accurate estimates to keep them pure.

For example, I wouldn't breed my SWQ Stimson with a WA Stimson, SA Stimson or Georgetown even though they are the same species, as all are unique in their own way and I would hate to see their localised individuality lost in captive herps.

JMO

[soulweaver]

Like some have already said, its too hard these days to say what is from where. I know there are exceptions, things out of W.A for example, but the majority is unknown.

There is this stupid myth going round that any diamond that is high yellow is from gosford, and people call them gosford diamonds. Unless you personally or no some who personally went and grabbed them out of gosford its too hard to tell, they are simply high yellow diamonds.

If it were i and i knew for a fact that a particular python was from a set area then yes i would try and keep the line pure. This of course is based upon the assumption that i can get another from that area.

[the_brad]

Gosford diamonds are one of the best forms but like everythink you have your good and your bad, ive seen some crummy diamonds around gosford yet a mate of mine has a diamond from bulli and it is amazing

[Kali7]

indicus, what is your avatar?.... that is the most beautiful creature I have ever beheld

[alumba]

yes it is a shame really people not knowing or not careing im just clad there are some people that care

signing out
Alumba

[Dutchy]

Overhere it is hard enough to get ur hands on an Aussie python as it is.
So i favor the pureline breeding to , atleast be able to say you have the snake u bought and not some crossbred snake sold as one.

I really think it's humanity's responsibilty to keep atleast a good pure strain. If u want crossbreads go keep ratsnakes :wink:

[Davo66]

When I was kid I used to catch Diamonds from the coal mine areas of Bulli. Beautifully marked animals, high yellow! and the dark was almost green, or thats how it looked to me!

P.S. All got released a few weeks later, Didn't have enough pocket money to buy too many mice lol.

Davo