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20-Aug-04, 10:24 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: Melbourne, Australia Gender:  | | | Date with a Small Eyed Snake
 It's certainly not what you think you rude peoples! 
I'm off to Brissy tomorrow morning for a quick visit. I'm a little anxious to catch up with a little friend of mine who I ran into one night whist wheeling out the rubbish. After doing a quick reference on what kind of snake it was I came to the conclusion it was a Small-eyed Snake. Looks like he/ she has a typical hideaway I'm keen to spring the torch on the little fella one night!
Anyone else had experience with these? Apparently they are quite common, but seldom seen! :roll: http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/nature_con...alleyed_snake/ |
20-Aug-04, 10:48 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-03 Location: In the ironically named sunshine coast, surrounded by nerds and nurses | | | | Quite common in springbrook, normally seen curled up and half buried under leaves (see photo). Will sit queitly while leaves removed for photo oppertunity. In my experence very inoffensive but some books say otherwise. Normally considered not dangerous but some populations have very potent venom. so beware. |
20-Aug-04, 10:50 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: May-03 Location: Brisbane | | | | Rather unpredictable...
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21-Aug-04, 04:43 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: Melbourne, Australia Gender: | | | | Great photo Fuscus. That's about all I've heard as well. The one I spotted was quite young and was lying on a grass embankment. I'm guessing to say 6 months old, maybe 1year? Apparently they are live born, so there is probably quite a few about! Have to be careful in the garden in Brissy lol |
21-Aug-04, 08:15 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-03 Location: In the ironically named sunshine coast, surrounded by nerds and nurses | | | | All SES I have seen were small, well under a meter. Also they were in bush, not suburbia |
21-Aug-04, 01:52 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Feb-04 Location: Sydney | | | | The bite is considered potentially fatal. It is thought that some fatal bites attributed to other snakes may have been frpm smalled eyed snakes.
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21-Aug-04, 02:07 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Mar-04 Location: sydney | | | | quote~ some populations have very potent venom
I recently read an intresting story about geographic varience in the potency and composition of venom, from "Australian nature magazine" Autumn 97
If bitten by the Malayan pitviper (calloselasama rhodostoma) , The exact nature of the symptoms often depends on where you are when you are bitten, suggesting the composition of pitviper venom varies between geographic locations.
Biologist Jennifer daltry and coolegues from the university of wales, UK, collected the venom of wild adult malayan pitvipers from locations across Vietnam, Malaysia, thailand and java.
venom analysis revealed that composition variations were closly related to dietry differences.
The principle function of venom being to immobilise and digest prey, and different prey animals may vary in their suseptability to toxins. The researchers suggested that in malayan pitvipers, and perhaps other species, natural selection fine tunes the venom in different populations in line with their main food sources.
They found that venom from captive bred pitvipers varied according to geographic location of their wild counterparts and not according to their natural diet, which they were fed in captivity. This indicates that the venom/prey associationis inherited within populations and is not a direct consequence of of the enviroment.
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