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09-Apr-08, 08:41 PM
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The guy that sold me my BHP told me not to use any disinfectant(just hot soapy water) in his tank as it can lead to neurological problems. He has been keeping snakes for 25 years so you would assume he knows what he is talking about.
But from everything i've read it is essential to keep them healthy. I want to know what others are using with there reptiles. Which disinfectant does the job that wont harm my snake? |
09-Apr-08, 08:47 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: Australia Gender:  | | | Go into herpshop. http://www.herpshop.com.au/ Then go into health and sanitisers or something and scroll down to F10. Probably the best cleaning product for reptiles. |
09-Apr-08, 08:49 PM
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09-Apr-08, 08:57 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jul-07 Location: Eastern subs Melbourne Gender: | | | | Is there any evidence that F10 is better than bleach, or soapy water? Some time ago a study found that hospital staff disinfected their hands as effectively with household soap as with the most expensive proprietary disinfectant, provided the washing process was thorough. Prior to that everyone thought the fanciest most expensive pink fluid had to be the best.
I would be interested if anyone has looked at whether F10 reduces microbial problems in reptiles, or whether it just makes keepers feel better. This is just a question from a relative newby.
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09-Apr-08, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by llasher  Is there any evidence that F10 is better than bleach, or soapy water? Some time ago a study found that hospital staff disinfected their hands as effectively with household soap as with the most expensive proprietary disinfectant, provided the washing process was thorough. Prior to that everyone thought the fanciest most expensive pink fluid had to be the best.
I would be interested if anyone has looked at whether F10 reduces microbial problems in reptiles, or whether it just makes keepers feel better. This is just a question from a relative newby. |
i'd personally rarther use f10 because as mrbredli said, its 100% safe.
im already paranoid enough about heating, enclousures being closed properly and everything else, would rarther not add to the list with using products and thinking, what if?
just imo!
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09-Apr-08, 09:18 PM
| | Roadkill Subscriber | Join Date: Aug-05 Location: Western Sydney Age/Gender: 25 | | | | Does soap kill OPMV, IBD, bird flu? F10 does...
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09-Apr-08, 09:18 PM
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09-Apr-08, 09:21 PM
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09-Apr-08, 09:23 PM
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09-Apr-08, 09:23 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Oct-07 Location: sydney Gender: | | | | pretty sure f10 is the only known disinfectant against opmv..
and when i went to the vet they were using so says something i guess!
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09-Apr-08, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBredli Pine o clean kills germs, and reptiles too. | Fair enough.Thanks
How often should cages be disinfected?
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09-Apr-08, 09:34 PM
| | Roadkill Subscriber | Join Date: Aug-05 Location: Western Sydney Age/Gender: 25 | | | | For pythons, everytime the snake defecates. For lizards, once per week i guess although i do it every 3 days or so for my blueys - messy little buggers.
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09-Apr-08, 09:40 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-06 Location: Grafton Age/Gender: 36 | | | | Is the Herp shops cleaner as good as the F10?
The Herp Shop's own product, the perfect cage cleaning solution. This habitat, cleaner, sanitizer is non toxic and suitable for reptile cages and utensils. Kills Salmonella, Ps. Aeruginosa, Pr. Vulgaris, E. coli, S. aureus bacteria, moulds and yeasts. Cleans, disinfects and self sanitizes in one operation. Safe for use on wood, painted surfaces, plastics, floor tiles and metals.
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09-Apr-08, 09:43 PM
| | Roadkill Subscriber | Join Date: Aug-05 Location: Western Sydney Age/Gender: 25 | | | | No, it's not. I don't know of anything better than F10.
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21-Apr-08, 09:24 AM
| | | G'day all,
Just a comment on this topic as llasher has mentioned it - cleaning does indeed do a great job of getting rid of most of the germs, but the catch is that if you are unfortunate enough to have some nasty pathogen hanging around, then cleaning alone will not get rid of it totally. Even if you clean really well and get rid of 99% of it, that remaining 1% is all that's needed to infect your collection. Hence using a decent disinfectant to kill these potential nasties after a thorough cleaning is the best option.
On F10 - it's highly effective but still safe for reptiles - very few (if any) others can claim the same.
As always, please feel free to email us directly for any F10 related queries... 
Andrew Chalmers
Chemical Essentials Pty Ltd chemicalessentials@bigpond.com | |
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