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01-Sep-08, 08:36 PM
|  | Sdaji Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-04 Location: Victoria | | |  Feeding Snakes drumsticks, chicken necks, etc
This topic comes up a fair bit and it's a pretty typical case of everyone having a firm belief without any empirical evidence, so I'm doing some preliminary trials.
For those unfamiliar with the debate, most people assume that snakes which naturally eat whole animals need to do so in captivity in order to be healthy. The reasoning is that they need all the goodies in the organs, with muscle, bone, fat, skin and fur not being enough on their own. People sometimes use chicken wings or necks as supplementary feeds to save money or to fill in when rodents are out of supply, and many people believe this is unhealthy.
If anyone has already done any experimenting, please get in touch to prevent me from reinventing the wheel! I have snakes currently gobbling down tails, legs, meat, etc and in a year or so I should have some worthwhile data (or sooner if things turn sour!).
Please note that feeding a snake half a dozen 'meat and bone' meals doesn't prove anything at all. Doing it for a year or so means something, and having a snake grow from baby to adult exclusively on meat and bone is what we need to try.
Cheers 
Sdaji
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01-Sep-08, 08:40 PM
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That will defianately be interesting to no,good luck with what you find out.
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01-Sep-08, 08:43 PM
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what type of snakes are you using?
will be interesting to see how it turns out.
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01-Sep-08, 08:44 PM
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Good luck! Better you than me but it would be very interesting to see how things pan out in a year?
Are you using more than one species?
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01-Sep-08, 08:52 PM
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I'm using Death Adders for the pilot experiment. Without preliminary results it didn't seem worth using a large number of animals/species. If they go well I'll probably try it with Children's Pythons and maybe a Water Python, and I'll also try a few variations on the diet. I presume someone else must have tried this already, my guess is that it goes badly and people don't report their failures. I may well be the hundredth person to try, but even if that's so I'll be the first to report the failure if no one else does it within a year or two.
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01-Sep-08, 08:52 PM
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Will look forward to the results.
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01-Sep-08, 08:54 PM
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I am one of your half a dozen people. Nothing to prove except that the Bhps like chicken and will eat it when rats not available or money either.
It does them no harm from what I can gather from my limited feedouts.
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01-Sep-08, 09:04 PM
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Yeah, I've given snakes a few meals of raw meat in a row just for the novelty. It never did them any noticable harm at all. About ten years ago I routinely gave them chunks of lean meat with their rodents. I figured that they'd be getting all the goodies they needed plus a triple dose of the best stuff. I never had any problems and have always wondered if they really did need all the offal. I haven't bothered feeding meat for many years now. I'm sure they'd be calcium deficient without bones, and I'd be surprised if the fat isn't important. As I said, I have a few nutritional ideas which I'll test if the pilot experiment is a success.
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01-Sep-08, 09:09 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Oct-06 Location: Brisbane Queensland Gender: | | | | Bhp's and chicken drumsticks
Hi there.MAYBE l can speed this debate up a bit...[approx.] 5 years ago l purchased a yearling female bhp off a guy who said [after l paid for her] she ONLY eats one week old chickens, well the novelty wore off these real quick[ living in an inner suburb]so l tried her on a small drumstick BINGO!!!! well for the last 41/2 years [SHE WILL NOT EAT RATS] all she has eaten is chicken drumsticks [with one MYADEC multi-vitamin capsule placed in the flesh via a knife cut]........well for the last 2 years she has produced 8 hatchies each year and is gravid again....and she is so shiney she looks like she has been dipped in clear oil.....cheers solar 17
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01-Sep-08, 09:16 PM
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Well! That makes me optimistic about getting positive results.
Skin off or skin on?
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01-Sep-08, 09:23 PM
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This is a disturbing moment.
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01-Sep-08, 09:24 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Oct-06 Location: Brisbane Queensland Gender: | | | | Chicken 4 snakes
The skin.....70-80% off......cheers solar 17..ps B 4 anyone gives me a serve this BHP WILL NOT eat rats in any shape or form and trust me l am the 1st to admitt l am a bit over the top with my feeding regimes but thats me and thats it.......
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01-Sep-08, 09:25 PM
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i havent done any experimenting or tests because my snakes wont eat chicken necks
tried and they wont take em one bit it once and then let go thats it
would love to see what results someone has had if they have experimented over a period of time tho
great thread sdaji
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01-Sep-08, 09:29 PM
|  | babygirl Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-07 Location: HIDING BEHIND THE FISH TANK! Age/Gender: 25 | | |
Just a question...maybe stupid but are these
just your every day supermarket drumsticks?
If so I question the chemicals etc
that get pumped into these kinds of meats...
I never eat supermarket meat for that reason.
Interesting experiment all the same. 
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01-Sep-08, 09:32 PM
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hehe solar if you want I have some quails you can try out on her, i had a simular experience with my female woma who won't touch rats no matter how hungry she is, I got onto day old chickens which my girl tok to very well but after some consultation with my vet decided that it wasn't the best idea to be just feeding day old chickens so followed my nose to quails and now all she gets is quails.
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