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08-Jan-07, 09:35 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Aug-06 Location: Dead and Buried Gender:  | | | floppy diamond python syndrome
We have a male diamond about 3 years old and around 10 days ago he got cloudy eyes and dull skin so okay it's going to shed.
He has been quite listless ( which is unusual for him) and every day spraying a light green spearmint cloured spray and out himself and when you pick it up it is quite limp. 
I took him to the vet about a week ago and the vet did a fecal swab and said he is okay that the shed takes alot out of them, but then i started reading on the internet about something called "floppy diamond python" syndrome but that didn't elaborate.So can someone please tell me what this is (am thinking of taking him back to the vet.)Thanks
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08-Jan-07, 09:42 AM
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Diamond python syndrone usually happens to adults, i havent heard of any cases where its happened to young snakes, i dont think you need to worry, but i would say take him to the vet if he hasnt shed in a week or so
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08-Jan-07, 09:44 AM
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There is not much really known as to what casues Diamond Python Syndrome. For some reason DPs in captivity seem to get it after about 7 or 8 years. Some believe it is caused by lack UVB, some by excessive heat (32deg C hot end) and others by not cooling them enough if not cooling them at all. I personally think it is a bit of everything, most people keep diamonds too hot to start off with which most likely doesn't help after being subjected to this after many years.
Diamonds kept out in aviaries seem to survive much longer and seem way more happier. I keep mine outside from about April through to late December. One of the diamonds I have had since a hatchie is 8yrs old and still going strong. Some of the others are much older. They obviuosly benefit greatly from having access to UVB/UVA, cooler temps during winter and the ability to avoid excess temps.
This is just my opinion on the subject, I am sure there are many more opinions out there.
Cheers
Daz
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08-Jan-07, 09:58 AM
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Can you maybe give us some more info? Like how big is he for a 3 year old? What temps do you keep him at? Do/have you cooled him previously? How much and how often do you feed him? Does he have access to UV? As huggles said everyone has a different opinion on DPS, some don't even believe it exists. I don't know whether it does or not so I take the recommended precautions similar to what hugsta said cos I want my Diamonds to live forever lol.
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08-Jan-07, 10:15 AM
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The green fecal matter indicates stress possibly liver I would be taking him back to the vet.
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08-Jan-07, 10:49 AM
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What vet do you use and where roughly are you located. I would try David Vella in Crowsnest or Robert Johnson in Penrith. Write down the symptoms and any other out of the ordinary behavior and events.
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08-Jan-07, 10:55 AM
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Thanx for the advise everyone.
Hi is around 51/2 foot, the temps are around 28 to 29,he has not been cooled (the previous owner said she tried but he did not want to participate),i feed him every 2 to 3 weeks,at the moment no uv(only sun a couple of times a week) but previously was housed with uv.
this one we have had for probablt 6/8 weeks and it was all good.Maybe it is just the shed taking it out of him i don't know (it's his first shed with us) but fingers crossed.
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08-Jan-07, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Inkslinger  The green fecal matter indicates stress possibly liver I would be taking him back to the vet. | Okay.when i took him to the vet that is what he swabbed the green fecal matter and looked at it under a microscope and said it was okay?
Time for a second opinion maybe?
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08-Jan-07, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by consequence What vet do you use and where roughly are you located. I would try David Vella in Crowsnest or Robert Johnson in Penrith. Write down the symptoms and any other out of the ordinary behavior and events. | Thanks the vet i go to went to uni with David Vella, the vets at Heathcote.
Sorry the replies will be at random (sneaking emails at work  )
Last edited by GSXR_Boy; 08-Jan-07 at 11:04 AM.
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08-Jan-07, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Inkslinger The green fecal matter indicates stress possibly liver I would be taking him back to the vet. | Okay you where right.took him back to the vet and he said the green is from liver damage.
the snake is at the vets now and it doesn't look good.
Possibly those four letters no one wants to here OPMV. |
08-Jan-07, 06:36 PM
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Dont panic yet hyas the snake had a recent burn or respitory problem (blowing bubbles etc)
I know how you feel I recently bought a jungle and I will add just getting into that species, and was told was a great feeder etc although shy well in the 3 months I had it it managed to eat 1 mouse, it has scince died and because of that four letter word and the local it was bought from an autopsy had to be done.
The pelimanary vet report has shown severe lack of body fat not possible in 3 months, now I am waiting on the other tests should be in this week, has turned out be an expensive purchase not to meantion a very worring one .
Hope all goes well for you.
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08-Jan-07, 06:46 PM
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No he hasn't had a burn and his size was okay but i did notice that his tounge wasn't as forked and he had a slight click in his breathing ( which i though was part of his skin shedding blocking his nose).
The vet said this was okay, but the green feaces has him worried and when i picked up the snake today to take him back it was like holding a wet piece of spagetti with green coming out of his cloaca and his mouth agape.
Not a pretty sight. Quite heartbreaking to see as he is my favourite and it was quite rapid in the end he got a whole lot worse overnight. I don't hold a lot of hope for him.
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08-Jan-07, 06:59 PM
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Fingers crossed for you
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08-Jan-07, 07:35 PM
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All i will say is make sure you get a histiopath done, what you have discribed to me sound like OPMV, in particular the fact you said it came on very fast.
I hope it's not but make sure you get it tested don't let anyone talk you out of that, no matter what people say about OPMV it is a real threat and needs to be taken seriously.
Best of luck fingers crossed it's just an infection of some kind.
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08-Jan-07, 07:39 PM
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Yeah i'm hoping it is the later, fingers crossed too!!
Will look into the test thoughregardless for piece of mind!!
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