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10-Feb-08, 11:55 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Redlands Gender:  | | | I have heard that most elapids are easier to handle than most pythons.I am told as hatchlings they are flighty but dont often bite.I have a mate with a red belly black wich he free handles all the time and he siad he trusts his RBB more than most of his pythons.Do you agree with his thaughts?Also what elapids do you have that are handable?some pics would be great also.
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10-Feb-08, 12:02 PM
|  | Q Dog Subscriber | Join Date: Dec-06 Location: Redlands, SE Qld Gender:  | | | | All I will say is don't even think of doing this unless you are an extremely experienced keeper and handler and you are 100% confident in your ability. Free handling elapids is not something a novice should try just because they have seen someone else do it without incident.
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10-Feb-08, 12:08 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Redlands Gender:  | | | | I definately would not do it myself.I am carefull not to get bitten by my pythons let alone an elapid.
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10-Feb-08, 12:13 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-07 Location: yarra valley Age/Gender: 38  | | | i free handled this little fellow but started to get a bit narky it is a wild caught
on a contruction site and moved down in the bush out the way. Black snake.jpg | 
10-Feb-08, 12:17 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Redlands Gender:  | | | | Is it a tiger
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10-Feb-08, 12:21 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-07 Location: yarra valley Age/Gender: 38  | | | | dark copperhead | 
10-Feb-08, 12:24 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Redlands Gender:  | | | | even better.I wouldnt try it.
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10-Feb-08, 01:12 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Redlands Gender:  | | | | doesn't look like many people have an opinion on this subject.
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10-Feb-08, 02:27 PM
|  | instant karma Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-07 Location: melbourne Age/Gender: 24  | | | I know a bloke he's a snake catcher in the summer...he has a tiger snake and he handles it all the time and even feeds it by hand i think it's all a matter of knowing that particular snake spending alot of time with it and being an experienced handler....i'de love to think that one day (years to come) that i would have the confidence to be able to free handle elapids i dream of rbbs   
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10-Feb-08, 02:34 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-07 Location: Northern Beaches, Sydney Age/Gender: 29  | | | | I suppose it scomes down to the consequences... even if you are more likely to be bitten by a python - the consequences are pretty minimal - at the most, a bit of pain and some blood.
Although you may be less likely to be bitten by an elapid, the consequences, should it occur, are a wee bit more serious!
Not a risk I would be willing to take! | 
10-Feb-08, 02:38 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Feb-08 Location: Victoria Gender:  | | | | Whats the Elapids Full Name? (not Scientific) | 
10-Feb-08, 02:41 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-04 Gender:  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by micko doesn't look like many people have an opinion on this subject. | micko, alot of people have an opinion on this, only they are not going to voice it due to the sh.itfight that usually comes from it.
Simone. | 
10-Feb-08, 02:43 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-04 Gender:  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Macee Whats the Elapids Full Name? (not Scientific) | ?????? elapid is the name given to front fanged venomous snakes, so a Tiger Snake is an elapid and so is a copperhead etc.
Simone. | 
10-Feb-08, 02:44 PM
|  | Jellybean Club Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-06 Location: Hobbiton, Middle Earth. Gender:  | | | | I know really experienced handlers who free handle daily with very little problem, but it's those very little problems that put them on life support every now and then. Worth it?? I say not, I'd rather have a long life looking at them than chance a short one holding them, but each to their own.
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10-Feb-08, 02:44 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Oct-04 Location: Western Sydney | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbowemonie micko, alot of people have an opinion on this, only they are not going to voice it due to the sh.itfight that usually comes from it.
Simone. | Simone is absolutely right. THis is a very divisive topic. Some hate it, some love it.
My opinion is thus: Sure an elapid is just another snake and in general they handle like one. But one day even a python might turn around and give you a feeding bite. If it's a python, you're fine. If it's large mulga, say goodbye to your kidneys and hello to a dialysis machine.
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