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10-Feb-08, 02:50 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-06 Location: Brisbane Age/Gender: 23  | | | | IMO you arnt cool unless you freehandle wild browns and coastals on hot summer days after having rats pee on your hands. |
10-Feb-08, 03:03 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-04 Gender:  | | | | I hope no one takes you seriously cris, ha ha ha ha ha.
Simone. |
10-Feb-08, 03:16 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Oct-07 Location: sydney Gender: | | | | im cool i sware... ill go find a wild brown now! |
10-Feb-08, 03:21 PM
| | | | There are lots of people who free handle their vens, They trust the snake and the snake obviously trusts them.
But there is no way on earth that I would free handle one, Just really not worth the risk of getting bitten in my humble opinion.
By the way I am not condeming those who do, Each to their own I say
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10-Feb-08, 04:04 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-06 Age: 34 | | | Whether an elapid is quiet or not, the risk involved is just too great. Where I do volunteer work, we have 2 snakes - and inland taipan and a death adder - both are such quiet individuals. My supervisor says he beleives the taipan could be handleable like a python but he doesn't and has no intentions of ever trying it. Its just too high risk if you get it on a bad day, and these snakes deserve great respect for what they are capable of. To frree handle vens would be like asking for a death wish. Respect them and live long to enjoy their beauty.
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10-Feb-08, 04:10 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-07 Location: Northern Beaches, Sydney Age/Gender: 29 | | | | You just hear enough comments from people on this site who say of their pythons "he was just being really cool and relaxed, and a split second later, for no reason, he bit me!" As someone said earlier, it's a tiny mistake with a python, but a much bigger deal with an elapid... |
10-Feb-08, 04:41 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-06 Location: Central QLD | | | | To those who say "they trust their snakes and their snakes trust them" or similar....do you have any idea of the number of keepers who have been bitten by their own elapids who say that they trusted / knew / were at one with their snakes??
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10-Feb-08, 05:42 PM
|  | steve Subscriber | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: gold coast Gender: | | | | just in case
Just in case you do decide to free handle the one that just bit you , dont panic just think how stupid you were and think your self lucky that theres people who know how to administer antivenom.  Safety first. be prepared for the worse. even if it is just a red bellied black, you dont want to loose a kidney or limb, eye sight etc. you probably already know first aid but you would be suprised how many trained people loose there concentration when become under heavy stress or situation, some people go into immediate shock.
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10-Feb-08, 08:24 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-05 Location: Perth WA | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by jessb  I suppose it scomes down to the consequences... even if you are more likely to be bitten by a python - the consequences are pretty minimal - at the most, a bit of pain and some blood.
Although you may be less likely to be bitten by an elapid, the consequences, should it occur, are a wee bit more serious!
Not a risk I would be willing to take! | fair call, but I guess you could always rip the venom sacks out to even out the risk. You can still look cool with the browns on a hot summer day that way as well - might as well add this to the topic  |
10-Feb-08, 08:30 PM
|  | Sexy Snake Subscriber | Join Date: Jul-07 Location: Cairns Gender: | | | ive free hadnled a mates adult rbbs it was very calm 
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10-Feb-08, 08:49 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-07 Location: Behind you | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by micko I have heard that most elapids are easier to handle than most pythons.I am told as hatchlings they are flighty but dont often bite.I have a mate with a red belly black wich he free handles all the time and he siad he trusts his RBB more than most of his pythons.Do you agree with his thaughts?Also what elapids do you have that are handable?some pics would be great also. | It's people like him that give Elapid keepers a bad name.Even the most placid Childrens Python can bite when you least expect it.
Holding a Venomous Snake that can kill you or give you health problems for life is just the same as waving a loaded shotgun around,it will go of one day.
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10-Feb-08, 08:59 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-05 Location: Sydney Age: 43 | | | | I hope no one does post a pic up here as it sends the wrong message to the majority of members here who dont own elapids. As Jason said, one day you will get nailed.
Of course, thats probably no different to skydiving, rockclimbing, skindiving, taking exstacy, driving at 150km/h, J walking whilst drunk, riding a motor bike without a helmet, smoking or any other dangerous passtime where half the reason you do it is to show everyone else that you can and get away with it.
If you are willing to suffer the consequences go for it. Just don't come here and promote it to the teenagers that frequent the place (and I am NOT suggesting that this thread is in any way condoning it).
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10-Feb-08, 09:10 PM
|  | Regular Member | | | | | As with most here, its not a risk I would be willing to take. HOWEVER, I do not see why people should get upset at others doing it. If they feel confident enough, and know the risk they are taking, then theres nothing wrong with that |
10-Feb-08, 10:09 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-05 Location: melbourne australia Age: 45 | | | Quote:
I hope no one does post a pic up here as it sends the wrong message to the majority of members here who dont own elapids.
Of course, thats probably no different to skydiving, rockclimbing, skindiving, taking exstacy, driving at 150km/h, J walking whilst drunk, riding a motor bike without a helmet, smoking or any other dangerous passtime where half the reason you do it is to show everyone else that you can and get away with it.
If you are willing to suffer the consequences go for it. Just don't come here and promote it to the teenagers that frequent the place (and I am NOT suggesting that this thread is in any way condoning it
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10-Feb-08, 10:18 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jul-07 Location: kellyville,sydney Age/Gender: 34 | | | wow theres been no one loggin on and spewing hate towards people that have free handled
elapids on this thread | | |
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