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25-Feb-06, 10:31 AM
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It pics like those Sdaji that make me want them even more!!!!!
My girlfriend is going to kill you!
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25-Feb-06, 10:39 AM
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They're not too bad.... i might even go so far as to say "Stunning"
I think we deserve to see some more pics. Possibly in some sunlight? something to show that magnifcent banding off!
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25-Feb-06, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by peterescue As Sdaji rightly points out the main area of debate over voiding is based on a dislike of Hoser. There are many reasons for this and that he will respond. The same debate has never taken place over ARPs use of venomoids in their outside pits.
Similarly I dont see debates raging over the scent glands being surgically removed from ferrets. | I should qualify that by saying debate in Australia.
The fact that ARP is shtum about their voids is proof in point.
I have also noticed that the Hoser surgery is now purported to have been performed by a Vetinairy Surgeon but affirmation is not forthcoming.
Further to this, the majority of critisism here is over his lack of credentials to perform such surgery. That ARP have access to that is another glaring anomally in the debate.
If you hate the concept of voids then all forms and there perrpetrators should be vilified, not just the soft targets. I dont condone his actions nor support the outcome. I just tell it as I see it.
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25-Feb-06, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by olivehydra I'm a little concerned as I am very gullible so I may come out of the experience wearing aluminium foil over my head in order to prevent ASIO reading my thoughts  | Actually, you should wear an alfoil over your head to prevent Hoser reading your thoughts and then trying to sue you because of what you think about him.
Sdaji - great looking additions to your collection. That front-on closeup is a ripper! 
Hix
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25-Feb-06, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by KathandStu Sdaji: They are truly beautiful snakes. Whilst I have absolutly no desire to keep vens myself I can certainly admire most ardently your fine specimens! Lovely snakes & lovely photography (as always). Congratulations on the most recent addition to your scaled family.  | Thanks Not just for the compliments, but also for reminding me that this thread started out of excitement over two gorgeous snakes and not because of debates about venomoids and bad people I'm glad that even though you don't want to keep 'vens', you can appreciate them |
25-Feb-06, 11:30 AM
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Quote Hix
Actually, you should wear an alfoil over your head to prevent Hoser reading your thoughts and then trying to sue you because of what you think about him.
exactly what i was thinking.
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25-Feb-06, 11:55 AM
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Erik: Good! Get some!
Tell her she'll have to get through my adders before she gets to me 
Henry: sunlight pictures hey? Well, it's overcast today, but I'll see what I can do
Peter: I'm not taking a strong stand one way or the other on the hoser-venomoid issue. Read his early articles, he gives no lack of clarity that he did the surgery himself, he details how he taught himself by performing the surgery on several road killed snakes (also technically illegal). There is no doubt that his surgery is illegal, but whether or not it is ethical is debatable. There is too much emotion on the side of the anti venomoiders and too much stupidity on hoser's side to get a proper discussion about it. (I assume you read the recent and absurd venomoid thread on the other forum).
Hix: the closeup is crap! The depth of field is too limited, the background is stupid ,it's not even very clear. I think I prefer Moose's version! (still laughing at it, Moose ) I'll try to get a good one.
I still have to get around to making one of those hats.
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25-Feb-06, 12:02 PM
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Just to throw a spanner in the works, does everyone here realise that our adders are not true adders as they belong to the elapidae family whereas true adders belong to the viperidae family. Our adders look and behave like adders but really are not. Most of you would know this thou.
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25-Feb-06, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sdaji Hix: the closeup is crap! The depth of field is too limited, the background is stupid ,it's not even very clear. | Anything that close is usually going to have a very limited depth of field. As it is, the focal point (the centre scales) and even the eyes are in focus. As for the background, it's ideal - there is nothing in the background to distract you from what, to me, looks like the perfect portrait.
JMO
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25-Feb-06, 12:05 PM
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beautiful adders man, i have been wanting these 4 ages but since i am only turning 18 this year, i cant get them, but 1day, i will get myself some. Does anyone know how old u gotta b in qld 2 keep vens?
John
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25-Feb-06, 04:26 PM
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TrueBlue: that was probably something worth bringing up, there are probably a few people here who didn't realise. Looks like you've covered the last quarter of the story of their names' histories (I was expecting it to happen )
Hix: appreciate it all you like, I don't think it's special (can't you praise one of my photographs which I'm actually proud of and leave this one alone?  )
hornet: Thanks Some years ago the situation was a bit more relaxed than it is now, I had a license to keep venomous snakes when I was 16 (in Victoria) although I think soon after they became quite a bit more strict. I think you'll be able to get your license when you're 18 years old, but you'll need to satisfy a few requirements in QLD, so if you get the chance, get some experience (I don't recommend doing a course).
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26-Feb-06, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sdaji can't you praise one of my photographs which I'm actually proud of and leave this one alone? | You mean, like the the Moloch in the tree?
Hix
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26-Feb-06, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hix Quote: |
Originally Posted by Sdaji can't you praise one of my photographs which I'm actually proud of and leave this one alone? | You mean, like the the Moloch in the tree?
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No, that's not one of the ones I had in mind |
26-Feb-06, 11:45 PM
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Congrats on your new additions mate, trully stunning speciman's. The photography, simply awesome I reckon!!! Well done.
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11-Mar-06, 03:21 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-05 Location: brisvages | | | | tis his brother lol
tis his brother and siso lol from same clucth im ledt to believe
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