Gosford Diamond

[cement]

If thats the father you guys must be stoked, any wonder you can't wait to see how they colour.
Good luck, that is an impressive specimen

[spencer]

Even happier now first feed in my ownership, first tried baby mice last night and left it with him over night and he didn't go for it so tonight i gave him 1 baby mouse and 1 baby rat and you beauty the rat worked

[-Peter]

Originally Posted by boa

Thanks guys, yes they are 2nd generation and the parents are outstanding.
Splitmore I merely said that the snake was pure Gosford because that's what it is, nothing to do with them being the same or different to anywhere else. I'm not sure why you feel the need to try and detract from the beauty of this snake ?

Didnt notice spiltmore saying anything derogatory about the snakes. He just pointed to the Gosford myth that so many of you are so keen to perpetuate. Dont know why someone with so much background as yourself is so touchy. As to beauty, its still a dull uncoloured snake that you hope will show the same genetic traits as the parents.

[boa]

Excellent, one of mine took a pink rat about an hour after getting home from the airport but the other one is less interested. I try to avoid offering mice, I have a Darwin that only eats mice and it's a real pain.

Originally Posted by Taimero

Even happier now first feed in my ownership, first tried baby mice last night and left it with him over night and he didn't go for it so tonight i gave him 1 baby mouse and 1 baby rat and you beauty the rat worked

[Lonsdale]

Originally Posted by consequence

Didnt notice spiltmore saying anything derogatory about the snakes. He just pointed to the Gosford myth that so many of you are so keen to perpetuate. Dont know why someone with so much background as yourself is so touchy. As to beauty, its still a dull uncoloured snake that you hope will show the same genetic traits as the parents.

Who says it's a myth?
Considering that Hornsby is a very short drive from Gosford (25-30 minutes) and the fact they are both connected by the same bushland the whole way up the F3 its not really mind boggling that the same color traits are found in both locations.

As said many times in this thread the Diamonds in question are Gosford locale as the parents of the parents of the hatchies were legaly wild caught and I can almost bet that Daniel .G could probably tell you exactly where they were captured.

In short they are still a friggin ripper colour and I have no doubt that they are easily some of the best captive breds on the Australian market.

(I also have a pair on hold for next season.....jealous much? )

[-Peter]

I said it s a myth. What of it, you basically say that with your connected bushland line.
As to where when and how they came in Daniel has told me before and yes they are a fantastic colour and jealous, hardly, my money is as good as yours, probably better, its mine.
Oh by the way, theres a couple of major rivers in between Hornsby and Gosford. They are considered geological barriers

[Lonsdale]

Originally Posted by consequence

I said it s a myth. What of it, you basically say that with your connected bushland line.
As to where when and how they came in Daniel has told me before and yes they are a fantastic colour and jealous, hardly, my money is as good as yours, probably better, its mine.
Oh by the way, theres a couple of major rivers in between Hornsby and Gosford. They are considered geological barriers

Oh sorry I was under the impression that pythons could swim

I wonder if the fish know that, I dont think there is one "major" river system between Gosford and Hornsby that couldn't be crossed in a few minutes by an adult human but as I said above I thought pythons could swim....my bad

[da_donkey]

YEEEE HAAAAA thats all i can say...damn im glad Dan bred these puppies (and ive got mine)

Donk

[Splitmore]

Boa,
I can't seem to find my post where I am bagging your snake?? If it turns out half as good as that pic of the adult you'll have a very nice diamond.
The point I'm making is that I've NEVER seen 'Wollongong diamonds' or 'Sydney Diamonds' advertised for sale yet seem to see quite a few 'Gosford' animals and for some resaon people jump on them with the expectation they are far superior to any others.
If by chance you do have genuine diamonds from the Gosford area, as this breeder obviously does, then by all means market them as such but I'm sure alot of diamonds sold as 'Gosfords' are just generic captive bred diamonds.

[hazzard]

Sorry for hijacking. Splitmore are you contactable? Your PM function doesn't work. Any chance you could contact me?

Cheers chuckhazz@hotmail.com

[-Peter]

Originally Posted by Lonsdale

Oh sorry I was under the impression that pythons could swim

I wonder if the fish know that, I dont think there is one "major" river system between Gosford and Hornsby that couldn't be crossed in a few minutes by an adult human but as I said above I thought pythons could swim....my bad

oh touche', thouest codpiece is truely bigger.
So pythons can swim and fish can walk but it has little to do with the myth of the Gosford diamond unless you agree that it is such. See Splitmores post. The fact that the same animals can be found throughout the range is the point isnt it.
Mr Gilbertson's animals come from a pair of fantastic "keepers" taken prior to licensing. For those that crave intense yellow this is a never to be repeated legal event. Dan's probably one of the few people who can therefore claim the term "High Yellow Gosford Diamond".
He can attach to them the concept of "providence". That is a known and traceable history. Most diamonds; in fact pet industry snake; have no supportable traceable history.

[clarkey]

I have seen the parents in the flesh and I can say they are by far the nicest Diamonds I have ever seen in captivity, particularly the male. I have seen several out in the wild around Gosford almost as good including a huge gravid female a couple of years ago that was more yellow than black, she was happily sitting out on the sand warming her belly up. Dan's Diamonds are by far the best and hopefully he will breed plenty more with this pair

[Pythoninfinite]

He can attach to them the concept of "providence". That is a known and traceable history.

That's actually "provenance" consequence, not "providence."

I must agree with Splitmore here - the commonly held notion that the highest yellow diamonds come ONLY from the Gosford region is a nonsense, I have seen some really intense yellows from almost throughout the range, and I have also seen really dark animals from the central coast.

I am curious about the juvenile snakes in the photos though - in my experience with young Morelia spilota ssp, the colouring will change dramatically as the animal develops over first 12 -24 months, but the patterning remains pretty much constant. To look at those critters, I'd first off say they were coastals or carpets from the mid-north coast. I look forward to updates as they develop.

I find the whole clinal distribution thing with these east coast carpets (and this includes diamonds of course) extremely interesting, but not something to get aggessive about...

Jamie.

Jamie.

[little_angel]

*CHING*
Still a Grate form of diamonds!

[liasis]

thats going to be beautiful