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28-Jun-04, 10:54 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-03 Location: Gosford | | | | Regarding BTS bites, about 20 years ago a Grey Roo at the old ARP was biten by one. 30 minutes later one very dead Roo. Just food for thought. I for one try not to get bitten by BTS if I can avoid it.
Also, 20 years ago it was thought worldwide that rear fanged Boomslangs were also harmless, till one of the worlds leading Herps died from a bite. |
28-Jun-04, 10:59 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-03 Location: In the ironically named sunshine coast, surrounded by nerds and nurses | | | I for one try not to get bitten by any animal if I can avoid it.
This behaviour is caused by the yellow stripe down my back  |
28-Jun-04, 11:01 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-03 Location: silverdale, nsw | | | | i hav been bitten by my bts, itchy, tingling and a surprising bit of blood but i have heard that specimens on guarm hav killed babies. Not sure how true this is though. |
28-Jun-04, 11:02 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Feb-03 Location: Gold Coast Age: 35 | | | | HMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm very good food for thought there bigguy. I certainly wouldn't like to be the one who finds out, hey they ARE deadly!!!
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28-Jun-04, 11:16 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-03 Location: silverdale, nsw | | | | well adam, i know for a fact the gts eat live prey all the time seeing as i have witnessed it to many times to count. first they grab their prey item, slowly turn it and then swollow it. Yeh i must hav been lucky too ^o) like i sed, just coz a snake is venomous it doesnt mean u will get sick or even feel anything abnormal. |
28-Jun-04, 11:28 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Feb-03 Location: Gold Coast Age: 35 | | | OK cool I think we BOTH have valid points in this matter. If we all get together on subjects like this without getting EDITED, well then we have helped out in a small way to the herping society.
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28-Jun-04, 11:34 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: Melbourne, Australia Gender:  | | | | I'm wading out of my depth here with the big fish LOL My understanding of Colubrids is that they are all venomous, rear fanged snakes. As pythons have body mass for strangulation, colubrids have venom to subdue their prey. There has been an extremely recent paper, I believe from Swinburne or one of the main Victorian universities which found that many supposed non-venomous species of Australian snake is in FACT venomous -it has rewritten the books in a time frame no later than 3 months. I will try to find the article. |
28-Jun-04, 11:43 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: Melbourne, Australia Gender: | | | Well, that wasn't too hard to find. My mistake though, it was the Melbourne University. I think one of the species was the GTS originally mentioned - but don't quote me on that! As you can see from the date of publication, this info is very, very new, and findings will not be listed in any of the current herp books. http://uninews.unimelb.edu.au/articleid_1249.html |
28-Jun-04, 11:57 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: Melbourne, Australia Gender: | | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Adam Fair bloody dinkum'!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you believe that poo????????? | Yes! |
29-Jun-04, 12:05 AM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Feb-03 Location: Gold Coast Age: 35 | | | Well if believe everything you read, ................... well fair enough, but I think it's all a load of crap. But "each to his own" I always say. Lets see them back it up for a while to make everyone believe that GTS are venomous. How long have these been kept in captivity??? Yes the boomslang proved everyone wrong, but how long ago and in such a remote area that wasn't researched properly???? Australia has been keeping GTS for quite a while now, do you think we would have heard of an envomation by now?????   It's all good cause I used smileys, ..............OK
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29-Jun-04, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam Or have you got your head in the sand?? It's all good cause I used smileys, ..............OK | I'm not the enemy Adam. Unfortunately, it's not just internet crap. As I personally do not believe anything that gets plonked in front of my face. This is a proven, scientific study! It is obviously an area that has been previously overlooked (as strange as that may seem), and the latest findings can't be ignored, nor can they be brushed aside as amateurish.
I'm not going to persist in writing what I believe here, as around this place, with my experience, I'm nothing but a beginner. I can only put forth my hypothesis, and back up what I see with openness & commonsense, can you? |
29-Jun-04, 12:21 AM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Feb-03 Location: Gold Coast Age: 35 | | | | Yes my friend I can. So we will wait to see further developments. I am actually looking forward to it because you had me thinking when you first stated these "facts" if thats what they are then I am quite keen to see the outcome of these studies now. Please DO keep us informed, because if this IS true, well then it is truely a leap forward into understanding our herp better. So I am sorry if I came across the wrong way but I just don't believe the first person to jump up and say I know this or that. That's all moosey, no hard feelings at all mate, lets just see what develops out of this.
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29-Jun-04, 12:39 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: Melbourne, Australia Gender: | | | | Thanks Adam, I appreciate your response, it's all good!
Guess what!..I've just written a letter to the good old Dr. Fry for an answer to our question. I'll keep you posted. It'll be hot off the press if he responds - fingers crossed! |
29-Jun-04, 01:58 AM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Feb-03 Location: Gold Coast Age: 35 | | | | Cool. Let me know how it goes, for sure I am keen to learn more!!!!!!!!!
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29-Jun-04, 09:06 AM
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