green tree SNAKE

[moosenoose]

I was thankful for a very quick response in regards to a brief letter I drafted to Dr Fry last night, and received the following information as quoted:

Hi Luke

While the Dendrelaphis species, like virtually all other 'colubrids',
are venomous, the venom gland for a 2 meter specimen would be around
25 millimeters long. The venom drop for drop is as toxic as an
elapid, however, the quantity delivered is tiny (and the venom
delivery not hugely efficient). They can deliver enough to help
settle down a frog, but not enough to cause symptoms in a human.

All the best
Bryan
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I hope some find this interesting as well as informative (I have!) It's obviously been a grey area up until now, and the work credited to Dr Bryan Fry has been recognised internationally, and his research awarded as a benchmark in this field.

[Pinkie]

So Baritji was right

[Magpie]

Awaiting your apology adam?

[Fuscus]

Well, I'll apologise for suppling what appears to be incomplete and inaccurate data. It appears that the more colubrids are studied, the more vemonous animals are found.

[moosenoose]

The paper that has been written is very new Fuscus. Dr Fry has actually sent me a 'sneak' preview of the papers that are supposedly to be released very soon - don't ask me how I got them LOL (I've got a way with words I spose LOL).I'm still yet to read them, they look very interesting. Unfortunately I believe I am unable to post anything within the papers online - so sorry all (one back on you Kevyn! )

His last letter quoted this:

No worries ;-) Attached is a sneak peak at a paper we have coming out which shows that the Colubrinae venoms, which are rich in
three-finger toxins, are just as potent as comparative Elapidae
venoms and in some cases (e.g. Telescopus and some Boiga) are
actually equipotent to death adders! The story just keeps getting
cooler ;-)

Cheers
Bryan

Adam, . Dr Fry knows a HELL of a lot more about reptiles then than you ever will. You say you have kept them?? WOW who gives a stuff, I seen over 300 GTS in the wild and been bitten by over 50, occasionally you suffer local reactions, which are DIFFERENT to a python bite, which is why they need a good chew to envenomate. I have seen there animals eat frogs live many times before, and a couple minutes after capture the frog is very quite and barely moves.

and I NEVER said that ALL COLUBRIDS are Venomous I said ALL AUSTRALIAN COLUBRIDS are venomous...read my posts and ya will see.

SOrry if I sound rude

well this has been an interesting post.

[ackie]

lol, yeh i hav copped a fair few hits from gts in the past few years. the worst was probably a captive snake which decided to chew my eye-lid but i hav never really had any symtoms apart from very slight itchiness but i would think thats just the teeth as i get a little itchy from python bites. Oh well, at least i can say i hav been bitten by and survived over 45 bites from venomous snakes
About wat people were saying at the beginning of this post about how they dont want to ruin the gts reputation by saying they r poisonous, well it wont ruin any reputations as everyone still knows that they are completely harmless and u could probably do more damage by not telling people wen a snake is venomous or not.

[sobrien]

Jeez Brodes, about time someone said something. What exactly are you arguing Adam? In one post you say you will accept it if they find that Dendrelaphis are venomous and then in the next you continue to say that you don’t believe them. Do you think that just because you have kept some, that that makes you the one who knows everything about them? Doubt it.
Also took this quote from Bryan in Venomdoc just to back things up a little more.

“Interestingly enough, the big Dendrelaphis in Fogg Dam/Kakadu actually have bigger venom glands. We were expecting the slatey greys to have larger. Instead its teeth are a bit better while the Dendrelaphis went the other way and developed its glands a bit (not too much) and doesn't have as advanced teeth”

Don’t mean to sound rude, however I did find some of your coments very rude and I just want to clear things up.

Simon O’Brien

They are bloody not ven. GET IT THROUGH YOUR thick head B.... They are in the class one category, go check your species list, oh that is if you have one!!!! Better still go to the NPWS link and look at the species list.

Jesus if I had previously read that post You would have got an abusive email mate.... You seriously need to take out whatever is shoved up your *** and get a life. Obviously u\you dont like being proven wrong. Your a bloody ****a. Get stuffed

[ackie]

oh yeh, just coz a snake is on a class 1 license doesnt mean it is non-venomous.

[moosenoose]

Originally Posted by Liberated

who knows how much a tree snake will set u back and where from u can get them?
cheers

Your a heartless man Liberated.....now look what you've caused!

[ackie]

lmfao

[soulweaver]

so whos the winner? lmao

[africancichlidau]

Play nicely now children, now name calling please no matter how well deserved you may think it is.