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04-Nov-07, 05:15 PM
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Ok guys, hypothetical question...
Lets just say I had the money to purchase a pair of breeding chondro's, and a good setup for them...
Do you think it would be profitable to breed them, is there much of a market for them in Aus, and are they difficult to breed (once you have read the More Complete Chondro of course 
What do you think?
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04-Nov-07, 05:29 PM
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There is a massive market, lots of money to be made. They are not particularly harder to breed than any other species of python.
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04-Nov-07, 05:30 PM
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go for it!  |
04-Nov-07, 05:31 PM
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are you licensed to keep them yet?
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04-Nov-07, 05:31 PM
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i think the problem is not the market but the price
let me rephrase that
everyone wants chondros but noone seems to have the money
also by noone i mean 95% of the population wouldnt spend it on 'just a snake'
although i think if YOU had the money to setup a breeding pair of gtp properly and you made sure they were good colouring, temperament, good feeders and took good care of them so as to make sure they were always clean etc... (ive seen many setups where people just shouldnt be keeping snakes cause they either dont have the time, dedication or maturity to do so) and then approached the 5% 'Right' crowd there could possibly be a half decent profit in it for you
just remember though when you say profit do you include all the time you spend with them, cost of food, time it takes to raise and 'teach' them that it is safe around you and in some cases even cost of selling
also remember that it takes you anywhere between 18mths and 4years to get them to the right size and even then they may not breed and you will realise you could possibly need more to get them to do what you are after
all in all i dont think 'profit' is the right word
but hey hope that helps
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04-Nov-07, 05:31 PM
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ok lets say a pair and setup costs you around $40,000 which is prob too much but lets work with that. say you only breed 10 babies which is a small clutch from what i understand and you sell them each for 5 grand. straight away you profit 10 grand. then every year after that is extra profit. there is a market for them in aus and the reason they are worth so much is because they are harder to breed then other pythons. i have never kept or bred them but someone else can prob tell you better if im close or not
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04-Nov-07, 05:37 PM
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There is a big market, they aren't difficult to breed and the price is coming down which makes them available to more people. You can pick up a breeding pair for 30k, first year they breed you are already ahead.
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04-Nov-07, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by southy  there is a market for them in aus and the reason they are worth so much is because they are harder to breed then other pythons. | The reason they are worth so much is because they are highly sought after (due to their beautiful colours) and because there are so few in captivity. That number is increasing and the price is dropping now, but they will continue to be a highly sought after species for a very long time. They are not hard to breed and have large clutches so they are becoming more freely available, but even still there is just an overwhelming demand for them, so the prices will stay fairly high for quite some time.
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04-Nov-07, 05:43 PM
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I think experience would be a key issue here, especially after reading Simon Stones article in the GTP special of reptiles australia. Simon who is an experienced herper even lost a few babies he had bought for himself when venturing into GTPs. My main concern would be that I would be confident enough in my own abilities to properly care for these animals (ie in case of prolapse etc) and be prepared to kiss goodbye that amount of money if something unfortunate did happen (I think from memory Simon lost two or three initially) not to mention the heartbreak of losing one in itself. Although, a GTP is a lot of peoples dreams (including mine) and I hope one day we all get to achieve our dreams. I have contemplated purchasing a pair however, want to be completely and utterly confident in my own abilities before I will.
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04-Nov-07, 05:44 PM
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I'd say (and I don't have a clue about GTPs min) that if you bought a breeding pair, they'd probably pay for themselves after the first clutch or two? The rest is profit hahaa
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04-Nov-07, 05:46 PM
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Same goes for any pair of snakes really.
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04-Nov-07, 05:48 PM
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That's true.. But I s'pose the amount of money you're dealing with is larger here.
I wonder if you were pretty well-off, if you could get one or two pairs and just breed away for an extra bit of 'pocket' money. (I wonder what the proft would be, all things considered)
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04-Nov-07, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBredli Same goes for any pair of snakes really. | I agree, I was more referring to the ability to deal with situations such as ailments, prolapses etc, by myself in case vets may not be able to help for example. I believe prolapse is more common in GTPs than a coastal for eg. Good luck with your venture if you choose to go ahead.  |
04-Nov-07, 05:54 PM
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If money wasn't such an issue I'd definitely buy one or two of these. They are such a pretty snake and another Morelia for my ever-growing Morelia collection. It wouldn't worry me if they never bred but to be able to breed them would be a rewarding experience - knowing I must have got something right.
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04-Nov-07, 06:11 PM
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I think you would need a restricted licence to breed GTPs, because the QLD rec licence says you can have 2 restricted animals. That's fine when you buy your pair, but when you breed them you will have a lot more than two  so you would need to upgrade your licence.
Besides that, if you can afford a breeding pair then go for it!
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