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22-Mar-08, 01:57 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: Gosford, NSW Gender:  | | |  Help!!! BHP just ate Breeder's Choice!!!
Snake people, I'm panicking!! Just gave my 14 month old female BHP chicken necks for the first time. To say she loved them is an under statement. She actually started trying to eat the plate I put them on!!!
Anyway, things were fine until the third chicken neck. A bit of muscle peeled away and collected about half a dozen breeder's choice pellets. I tried to flick them off unsuccessfully. Anyway, by the the time I found some scissors to clip the errant bit of muscle off, she already had it in her mouth and was not going to give it up!!!
Is this bad??? Logic tells me that if she can digest teeth and bone then some compressed recycled paper shouldn't be a drama...but I don't know.
Any advice needed...PLEASE!!! |
22-Mar-08, 01:59 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-06 Location: S.A Gender: | | | | either take the snake out and place into a tub to feed it, or just use newspaper which is better then breeders choice |
22-Mar-08, 02:12 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: Gosford, NSW Gender: | | | | Eating Plate
Here she is eating the plate.... |
22-Mar-08, 02:14 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: Gosford, NSW Gender: | | | | Yeah Matt. Next time I'll put newspaper down before I feed her but in the mean time...will she be okay??? |
22-Mar-08, 02:14 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-05 Location: Earth Gender: | | | | Help!!!
Yes newspaper is the best,breeders choice is good for cats and dogs,with newspaper if a snake does a turd you can pick the whole lot up and throw in the bin then replace with fresh and clean,snakes rarely get newspaper pages down
but they sometimes try by accident also.The pellets should be passed by the bhp,they have amazing digestion if they are kept at the right temperatures. |
22-Mar-08, 02:24 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-05 Location: Earth Gender: | | | | re help!!!
With the chicken necks christian,you need to dry them out with paper towels they add lots of water to them to make them weigh more when they are sold.I used to have pictures on this site a long time ago of my female eating them,you get them dryed then place them in rows on sheets of newspaper so that the snake cant get the sides of the paper and ingest it. |
22-Mar-08, 03:16 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Nov-05 Location: QLD | | | | it amazes me why people use absolute rubbish like breeders choice for a substraight in the first place.
Its a cats toilet for god sake.
It expands a hell of a lot once wet and can cause all sorts of problems when swollowed. |
22-Mar-08, 04:10 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: Gosford, NSW Gender: | | | | Point taken. Breeder's Choice is GOOOOONNE!!! I'm north of Sydney and the enclosure is in the garage which can get breezy. The breeder's choice kept the heat in better. Anyway, pet shop recommended it...can't get good advice these days. |
22-Mar-08, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TrueBlue  it amazes me why people use absolute rubbish like breeders choice for a substraight in the first place.
Its a cats toilet for god sake.
It expands a hell of a lot once wet and can cause all sorts of problems when swollowed. | Should keep a close eye on the snake - the pellets WILL expand.
There's so many threads that condem the use of breeders choice, but yet its still used. 
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22-Mar-08, 04:16 PM
|  | instant karma Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-07 Location: melbourne Age/Gender: 24  | | | | Sometimes it pays to take peoples advice (especially petshops) on board but not use it as gospel, i find somethings are best left to your own judgement at the end of the day..Hopefully she will be ok and def swith back to newspaper. Yes it's boring! but less drama as well.
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22-Mar-08, 04:16 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Oct-05 Location: Somewhere in the great SE (QLD) Gender: | | | that stuff killed a childreni hatchy i had a few years ago from swallowing the crap. A bitter lesson to learn, hopefully you get a better result. Newspaper all the way.......
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22-Mar-08, 04:24 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-04 Gender: | | | | I know of a bloke who lost an Olive Python to Breeder's Choice, one of the pellets got lodged in its windpipe.
I find that Breeder's Choice often have paper mites in it. |
22-Mar-08, 04:25 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Dec-04 Location: Melbs Age/Gender: 22 | | | lol that pic cracked me up, she hungry much?? 
But also good advice in regards the BC. I currently have it in the enclosure too, though i usually take Lucifer out into a plastic tub for a feed.. ah well better safe than sorry, will ditch the BC too 
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22-Mar-08, 04:45 PM
|  | Necker Cube Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: NSW | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by mungus Should keep a close eye on the snake - the pellets WILL expand.
There's so many threads that condem the use of breeders choice, but yet its still used. | Its still used because if it is used correctly it works well. If you plan on enclosure feeding then BC can't be used, this is just common sense given the fact that it does expand and can have plastic/metal contaminants.
There are a lot of ways to keep reptiles and all too often people fail to see the link between various aspects of your husbandry (e.g. substrate and feeding routine). If you are going to change from BC to paper, there will have to be other aspects of your husbandry that will need to change as well.
Given that people have had success with a range of husbandry systems from Brian Barnets simple incandescent globe in a box method up to Greg Maxwell's thermostatically controlled heat panels, the condemnation of products such as BC and thermostats is simply ludicrous. The fact is there are benefits and limitations to all commonly used husbandry systems and products, the idea is to mitigate the risks associated with the limitations of one part of the system with another part. Very similar to putting a wall in teh middle of your enclosure eh TB  |
22-Mar-08, 07:14 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-05 Location: Earth Gender: | | | | re Help!!!
[quote=Chimera;1106419]Its still used because if it is used correctly it works well. If you plan on enclosure feeding then BC can't be used, this is just common sense given the fact that it does expand and can have plastic/metal contaminants.
There are a lot of ways to keep reptiles and all too often people fail to see the link between various aspects of your husbandry (e.g. substrate and feeding routine). If you are going to change from BC to paper, there will have to be other aspects of your husbandry that will need to change as well.
Given that people have had success with a range of husbandry systems from Brian Barnets simple incandescent globe in a box method up to Greg Maxwell's thermostatically controlled heat panels, the condemnation of products such as BC and thermostats is simply ludicrous. The fact is there are benefits and limitations to all commonly used husbandry systems and products, the idea is to mitigate the risks associated with the limitations of one part of the system with another part. Very similar to putting a wall in teh middle of your enclosure eh TB [/QUOTE
Nothing to do with brian Barnett,Maxwell smart or TB etc breeders choice is just crap that gets swallowed by reptiles | | |
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