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15-Oct-08, 04:36 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-08 Location: Östersund , Sweden Gender:  | | |
I have seen 2 ways to hibernate diamondpython.
first you skip food from 1 november and 15 november you begin cooling the tank to low 70s at night and low 80s in day.
1 december you put them in boxes in 50-60 F in 3 months time and take them up 1 March to the room with 75 F....in daytime you can have a spot 1 your each day for 1 week.
then you can have 75-80 F night and 85 F day next week and the week after that you can begin to give them food.
The other way are the same but you give them a spotlight for 4 yours each 24 yours......will i skip the spot or have it ?????
how do you do it ???
stan chiras ho has the first way to do that say that the spot can ruins the bacteria in the gut for the animals and are very dangerous
what are youe experience ???? my first year a will hibernate my diamonds and they are 07 animals
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15-Oct-08, 06:15 AM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Oct-06 Location: On the water or in the Bush. Age/Gender: 40 | | | |
My diamonds get a hot spot 12 months of the year @ 30 -32 deg. Cel.
including the cooling months [ Mid May, June, july & August ] only in daylight hrs.
In Late July & August, I cut down the spot to say 4 hrs in the morning & 1-2 hrs before nightfall [ just to give them a little heat before bed time ]
Now, none of my snakes get night time heat , unless the females are gravid @ certain times of year.
The cage temp. at night drops to about 10 - 12 Deg. Cel. Max. in Winter.
I have no problems breeding my Diamonds.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Aleks.
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15-Oct-08, 06:26 AM
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I'm very similar to mungus, in Aus July to Aug is our winter period. Only diff I do is the day basking light will be on for 6 -8 hours.
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15-Oct-08, 06:33 AM
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do you move the hole cage to place you are cooling them ???? for i have glas cage and the animals will not have pitch black the hole time..
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15-Oct-08, 06:39 AM
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Wooden unit with glass fronts, I just mimic daylight hours over winter. My diamonds aren't covered but have hides to go too, when they are chilly they will come out to bask.
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15-Oct-08, 06:43 AM
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As Mungus says. My snakes get year round natural light from windows. Failing this, you will need to replicate your local photoperiod conditions, for best results, using artificial lighting.
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15-Oct-08, 06:44 AM
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do you heatpads on the day to.....or is the only heat from the basking spot ??? i will have them in my basement storage.
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15-Oct-08, 06:47 AM
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My units are 4 high, so each unit roof heats the floor in the next unit above bar the bottom unit which gets a heat mate.
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15-Oct-08, 06:53 AM
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Tall units. Basking spot at the top, hides at the bottom. Diamonds need to climb.
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15-Oct-08, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cockney red  Tall units. Basking spot at the top, hides at the bottom. Diamonds need to climb. | Thats the way to go......... 
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15-Oct-08, 09:06 PM
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mine diamonds are born august 2007 and have a weigt on 148-149 g each.....have you hibernate this snakes for the first time now or have you wait one year more ???
they are 1.1 morelia spilota spilota from late august 2007.
best regards
Jonas
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15-Oct-08, 09:14 PM
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In an article I have read recently the keeper gave the last feed in November after a couple of weeks to ensure the gut was empty he put them into insulated boxes and mover the to a dark room for the next 3 months. (they were completely in the dark for that whole time) then when it was time to wake them up he brought them up during the night so they would wake to natural light in the morning.
I guess this is one way to do it if you are intending to breed but probably extreme otherwise.
I am getting a Diamond in March and am watching all threads for any Diamond advice.
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15-Oct-08, 09:30 PM
|  | Retired Snake Subscriber | Join Date: Aug-05 Location: Western Sydney Age/Gender: 25 | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackrabbit In an article I have read recently the keeper gave the last feed in November after a couple of weeks to ensure the gut was empty he put them into insulated boxes and mover the to a dark room for the next 3 months. (they were completely in the dark for that whole time) then when it was time to wake them up he brought them up during the night so they would wake to natural light in the morning. | It's a very out-dated method and one that i don't think any Australian keeper would use. I think you will find the author of that article ended up having major health problems with his Diamonds, and i believe at least one died.
In the wild, Diamonds will bask everyday during Winter. On a 20 degree day they can still get their body temp over 30 degrees. With that in mind, it is no wonder the auther mentioned above ran into problems using the method he describes.
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16-Oct-08, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBredli It's a very out-dated method and one that i don't think any Australian keeper would use. I think you will find the author of that article ended up having major health problems with his Diamonds, and i believe at least one died.
In the wild, Diamonds will bask everyday during Winter. On a 20 degree day they can still get their body temp over 30 degrees. With that in mind, it is no wonder the auther mentioned above ran into problems using the method he describes. | Stan the man, hey, a shining beacon to all us Diamond devotees. 
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16-Oct-08, 09:58 AM
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Diamonds don't need to be completely hibernated, especially NOT in a polystyrene box in the garage!!! Give them their last feed in april (in AUS), wait a couple of weeks to clear their gut and only provide heat for 2 hours a day with no heat on somedays, (this will imitate cold overcast days when the is no sun) They will come out to bask everymorning and thermoregulate themselves to a desired temp, then crawl into a well insulated hide and coil up to preserve their heat, then they do the same again the next day. The heat they absorb from just 2 hours basking is enough to keep them warm untill the next day. Then come September, increase heat to 4 hours or so a day and resume feeding for the Summer, Spring Autumn period, then do it all over again! (This is the method I was told by a reputable Victorian diamond breeder.)_ Hope this helps
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