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22-Feb-04, 07:44 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: NSW | | | My snakes are all northern species, Stimsons, Brown tree snakes and soon a Bredli. I am wondering does that mean I should hibernate them for a short time only? And just how cool should I let the enclosures get considering winter temps are extremely low in my area. Do pythons like Bredli's actually hibernate at all in the wild?
Really appreciate any info you can give. Matt.
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22-Feb-04, 08:16 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Feb-04 Location: NSW | | | | They only need cooling not full hybernating.
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22-Feb-04, 08:17 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: May-03 Location: Brisbane | | | | Bredli are from out west, and it frequently get's well under zero degrees celcius out there at night.
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22-Feb-04, 08:24 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: British Columbia, Canada | | | | I keep a few North American species (California Kingsnakes and Northern Pacific Rattlesnakes) that hibernate in the wild, but I know of few people over here anyway that find it necessary to reproduce this activity in captivity. I never have and have seen no negative effects as a result. Might be different with Aussie species, but I don't know anyone over here that hibernates any of those species.
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22-Feb-04, 08:40 PM
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22-Feb-04, 08:43 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: British Columbia, Canada | | | | I was wondering about that. Hibernation and burmation are very different things. I couldn't figure out how it was possible for snakes to need to hibernate in Australia. Good point.
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22-Feb-04, 08:46 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: NSW | | | | Brumation? I can't even find the word in my dictionary. Is this the correct term for when reptiles become inactive in winter?
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22-Feb-04, 08:49 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: British Columbia, Canada | | | | Yep, true hibernation is something entirely different. Curling up in a burrow, lowering metabolic rates, and ineffect sleeping for a few months. Burmation envolves some activity.
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22-Feb-04, 08:55 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: NSW | | | | Live and learn, thanks fella's. So I basically should keep the heating on all year with thermostat set to same temp. I suppose the more extreme thermal gradient will be enough to allow the snakes to brumate. What if we are talking about juveniles that are in smaller tubs, same deal?
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22-Feb-04, 08:55 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Feb-04 Location: NSW | | | | Hybernation means total dormacy in an inactive state of torpur. Only Diamonds IMO need a full hybernation with no heat source but other python species just need a cooling over winter with a temp drop into the lower levels. | 
22-Feb-04, 08:57 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Feb-04 Location: NSW | | | | Juveniles dont need cooling untill atleast there 2nd year.
Keeping high temps year round wont give the adults a winter cooling period. Temps should be altered year round according to season. | 
22-Feb-04, 09:04 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: NSW | | | | So say if I have my thermostat at about 32deg in summer, maybe around late march lower it to 26deg then by late april drop it to about 22deg? Would that be ok for 1.5 yr olds?
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22-Feb-04, 09:04 PM
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22-Feb-04, 11:45 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: Melbourne O>I>G>L Souly! | | | Quote: |
Bredli are from out west, and it frequently get's well under zero degrees celcius out there at night
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22-Feb-04, 11:57 PM
| | | | hibernation Some interesting points Simon ,I have only 1 snake so far and have had her for about 8 months but in that time I have noticed that over winter she would want to hide out of the day light and not want to feed all that often. She seemed to be less interested in whats going on around her.But now the weather has changed she,s a different girl alltogether,cant get enough tucker do,snt hide as much if at all, seems more aware of whats going on she,s up and about a lot earler than she used to be and the temps have been the same (30) so maybe they are smarter than we recon. |  | |
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