How do you tell a mac form a blonde mac?

[indicus]

Hi Camo,
The fact is a lot of children’s have been cross bred for years; due to them all being considered to be similar at one stage.
These days however, they are separated into four basic sub species....stimsoni, maculosa, childreni and perthensis?.
IMO it's possible that further distinction between sub species may arise in the future; especially where natural integration has occurred....
Meaning where two types known distribution points over lap in the wild.....these animals may in fact appear to have traits common in both accepted forms;
and as such could possibly be called one or the other; until proven other wise with DNA tests alike.
It's interesting when determining “what is a blonde children’s?" Even some of the noted breeders have merely gone on colour as a guide;
which is poor at best and quite a joke really; as where mostly all aware of different colour variants found within morphs.
To be fair however; some of these breeders have been working on and refining their lines for considerable time, and may in fact, have locality derived
breeding stock; and as such are better able to supply whats currently deemed as a blonde mac......
Theres no dought that some breeders will be out to make a quick buck... however there are also those that take pride in the fact; that they strive to produce stock that is better then the average; and as close to pure as can be.
IMO; when choosing a blonde; firstly do some reading; shop around, speak to as many breeders as you can, ask to see some pictures of the breeding adults if possible;
and choose an animal based on what you've learnt.
Now price.....You pay for quality these days as with most things; if it's to expensive for you, don’t buy; how hard is it.
If your lucky to get a normal mac that turns out better then other so called blondes; half your luck; why windge about it.
If you want to breed blondes, shop around for quality and spend the bucks for something your happy to label as a blonde.
That’s my rant on the subject; sorry Camo, hope i haven’t confused you further.....lol

[Jason]

i agree with indicus! look around and be prepared to pay more for the good ones, i paid 300 each for my hatchy blonds (pure cape yorks) this season from shane skarff, it cost me more but i got quality and im happy.

[Tristis]

do you have any pics jason? i would like to see them

[Jason]

i will try and get some pics, but they are only about 6 months old, although they look imo fantastic in the flesh really light background with great red blotches, there the kind of snake you have to see to get the full effects, but i will see what i can do.

[alumba]

A mac is a mac whether it is light or dark there are too many names getting thrown around these days
I’ve had Darwin children’s that r whiter than these blond Macs, but im not going to call them blond N.T children’s
I think all it comes down to is the dollar people r trying to get more for there snake by calling it a blond or some other name.

Cheers Alumba

[alumba]

PS it just really gives me the @#*%^ people calling something what it isn’t
All it is is crossing species with another and that is morally wrong

[Jason]

PS it just really gives me the @#*%^ people calling something what it isn’t
All it is is crossing species with another and that is morally wrong

macs are only given the term blond or standard, thats TWO terms, not many really.
if you see a blond mac next to a standard, there is a difference, just like putting a hypo next to a normal, yes some people use the term when it shouldnt be used to try and describe an animal as something it just isnt, but you cant argue that there isnt a difference cause there clearly is. have you owned a standard and a good blond, and placed them next to each other? cause then you will see a huge difference.

[JandC_Reptiles]

Another term tossed around the hobby like salad.
Have seen a multitude of normal looking animals marketed as blondes.

[Jason]

Have seen a multitude of normal looking animals marketed as blondes.

unfortunatly, me to, but it will always happen, with new names like that. you just have to be careful and dont let the names suck you in imo, specialy because hatchys are small which make it hard to see what you are going to get as an adult.

[JandC_Reptiles]

Am against terms & labels myself. Sick to death of seeing a host of BS names given to animals, especially when they are no different to any other specimen out there lol. Unless it is something very obvious like an albino. No mistaking a white snake with pink eyes

[indicus]

Dont suppose you have a pic of these childrens?..... :roll:

[ponybug]

i'm with you indicus, i want to see some pics alumba, and put me down for a pair when you breed them,

cheers,
steve.........

[indicus]

Mate; blondes is a term given to a population of Mac's in the far north; a name that has been popularized by a well known breeder of this form of mac's.....Sure theres a lot that may have a southern form mac thats lighter then normal; so they then falsely label it as a blonde... for cash or otherwise; thats human nature.
However in most cases; as Jason expressed; put a normal mac along side most northern mac's and thier chalk and cheese in comparsion.....
IMO i think theres nothing wrong with (BS) labeling of reptiles; i'm gulity myself....In fact it can be rather handy.
For example take Mr Stones Topaz line woma's (nothing against his womas at all).....granted you may have seen animals similar; however when someone mentions Topaz woma, i straight away know what colour form your refering to....It singles out the breeder and type he/she is producing....It's not only done with herps but all live stock, dogs, horses etc etc......so get over it.
If it's done to inflate the price of the reptile on offer; it still comes down to whether you'll pay that price or not.
While i think of it....Alumba, there are a lot of intergrades being sold these days...Have you considered the fact that some of these lines may have originated from naturally occuring intergrade forms?

[chilli]

it's Dr Stone, etiquette please, lol

[Camo]

Thanks all you have been really helpful to me.

Cheers

Cameron