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08-Oct-07, 08:38 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Oct-07 Location: Sydney Region Age/Gender: 21  | | | | the breeder should have all his reptiles taken off him for such a act of stupidity in crossing two endangered snakes. It makes me just as mad a when people kill snakes for cause they feel like it. | 
08-Oct-07, 08:39 PM
|  | The Devils Reject. Subscriber | Join Date: Aug-05 Location: Rugsville..... Gender:  | | | | i think its great, there should be more hybrids geting around..........lol
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08-Oct-07, 08:41 PM
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08-Oct-07, 08:57 PM
|  | Back in 5 mins Subscriber | Join Date: Oct-06 Location: NTH QLD Gender:  | | | | Now I don't know much about the snakes in the sydney area, but seeing as these snakes are compatable for breeding with each other, If their territories where to overlap in nature is there a possibility of there being natural cross bred intergrades of this specie in the wild? | 
08-Oct-07, 09:00 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-06 Location: CQ | | | Stephens' Banded Snake Hoplocephalus stephensii Isnt found in Sydney,
so i dont think any natural intergration would occur in the wild 
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08-Oct-07, 09:01 PM
|  | Roadkill Subscriber | Join Date: Aug-05 Location: Western Sydney Age/Gender: 25  | | | | I doubt it, Broadheads have a very limited distribution around Sydney. I don't believe Paleheads or Stephens are found in any of these locations.
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08-Oct-07, 09:03 PM
|  | Roadkill Subscriber | Join Date: Aug-05 Location: Western Sydney Age/Gender: 25  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Australis Stephens' Banded Snake Hoplocephalus stephensii Isnt found in Sydney,
so i dont think any natural intergration would occur in the wild  | Yep, i don't think you'll find either much further south than Gosford.
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08-Oct-07, 09:20 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-06 Location: Brisbane Age/Gender: 23  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by caustichumor Now I don't know much about the snakes in the sydney area, but seeing as these snakes are compatable for breeding with each other, If their territories where to overlap in nature is there a possibility of there being natural cross bred intergrades of this specie in the wild? | I guess so, i asked if it was wild caught in a previous post before properly reading that it was "created" in jonnos post (that is now also removed due to confusion on his part). I then reomoved the question and replaced with a  i hope that makes sense
so is this thing man made or collected? if it came from the wild it could be a natural hybrid or integrade(going off distribution maps in cogger) | 
09-Oct-07, 09:42 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Aug-07 Location: sydney Gender:  | | | | While there are intergrade carpet/diamonds and people purposfully crossing jungles with diamonds and other breeds of carpet pureley for color variations. What would happen if a snake was offered that had an unusual pattern would you question the bloodlines or pay extra for an unusual snake such as a stimi with stripes down the body, must have been a weird looking snake. But to buy would cost so much more than normal.
Who ever thinks this is wrong I hope you keep your population paste to your self as you should only breed with a purebred [deleted] like yourselves as we do not want any [deleted] X [deleted]around or what would you call him/her, not human, as you have crossed genes from 2 different species...........................it works for all species of animals. I also hope you only spend thousands buying a dog as there are a lot of bitsas around and following your comments would make you a [deleted]for getting something that is not 100%, even though a bitsa dog is usually more loyal and smarter......
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Last edited by Hix; 09-Oct-07 at 01:24 PM.
Reason: too much swearing, infraction issued
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09-Oct-07, 09:52 AM
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09-Oct-07, 12:55 PM
|  | Roadkill Subscriber | Join Date: Aug-05 Location: Western Sydney Age/Gender: 25  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ozianimals While there are intergrade carpet/diamonds and people purposfully crossing jungles with diamonds and other breeds of carpet pureley for color variations. What would happen if a snake was offered that had an unusual pattern would you question the bloodlines or pay extra for an unusual snake such as a stimi with stripes down the body, must have been a weird looking snake. But to buy would cost so much more than normal.
Who ever thinks this is wrong I hope you keep your population paste to your self as you should only breed with a purebred knob like yourselves as we do not want any knobXwan# around or what would you call him/her, not human, as you have crossed genes from 2 different species...........................it works for all species of animals. I also hope you only spend thousands buying a dog as there are a lot of bitsas around and following your comments would make you a cockhead for getting something that is not 100%, even though a bitsa dog is usually more loyal and smarter...... | --
Firstly, congratulations for the dumbest post ever on APS; that was quite a feat.
Now, let me ask you a question, can your small mind grasp the concept of the word 'intergrade'? Intergrades are not the result of Brisbane Carpet Pythons mating with Diamond Pythons in the wild. They are simply a form of Carpet Python that intermediately looks like something in between a Diamond and a Brisbane Carpet; they are not hybrids.
As for people crossing Carpets and Jungles, they are just as stupid as you. But thankfully neither of those subspecies are endangered, still it is not good.
So am i right in guessing that you are the owner of that snake, or are someway associated with that person? In any case, my respect for you as a member of APS has just dropped a level. You're now at -1.
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09-Oct-07, 01:02 PM
|  | Josh! Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: Bulli, N.S.W Age/Gender: 23  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ozianimals While there are intergrade carpet/diamonds and people purposfully crossing jungles with diamonds and other breeds of carpet pureley for color variations. What would happen if a snake was offered that had an unusual pattern would you question the bloodlines or pay extra for an unusual snake such as a stimi with stripes down the body, must have been a weird looking snake. But to buy would cost so much more than normal.
Who ever thinks this is wrong I hope you keep your population paste to your self as you should only breed with a purebred knob like yourselves as we do not want any knobXwan# around or what would you call him/her, not human, as you have crossed genes from 2 different species...........................it works for all species of animals. I also hope you only spend thousands buying a dog as there are a lot of bitsas around and following your comments would make you a cockhead for getting something that is not 100%, even though a bitsa dog is usually more loyal and smarter...... | All Dogs are the same species!
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09-Oct-07, 01:42 PM
|  | Yes, that Hix Moderator | Join Date: Mar-04 Location: Sydney | | | It seems a lot of people are getting very upset about this snake, and I really can't see why.
Firstly, there is nothing in the DEC that states that hybrids are illegal.
Secondly, the snakes might be uncommon in the wild, but if anyone here thinks that the broadheads held in private hands will be used to repopulate the wild, then they're mistaken.
Broadheads may be uncommon in captivity too, and this may have been a wasted breeding, but if the owner didn't have access to another Broadhead at the time, his animal may not have bred at all that year so the hobby is really no worse off. And it's not like the Broadhead bred once and will never breed again. The snake may have been bred for a research project, to look at the DNA or something like that.
And to cap it off, there's a very good chance that the individual, being a hybrid (not an intergrade), will be infertile.
Statements along the lines that the person who bred the animal "should be shot" is, IMO, an over-reaction.
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09-Oct-07, 01:50 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-06 Location: Brisbane Age/Gender: 23  | | | but what about the children  | 
09-Oct-07, 01:50 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Nov-05 Location: QLD | | | | hahaha, they are asking 990 bucks to much for it.
Tell em hes dreaming. |  | |
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