I wonder?

[pythoness]

forgive ignorance, being a python chick,,,,,..(with little in depth knowledge of elapids)...,, do they have the same kind of young ie, eggs/live.
even my limited understanding of biology would tell me that an egg layer and a live barer could never interbreed (despite all the stupid roumers that tiapans are breeding with coastals pfft)
so Q is do they both have eggs or live young?

[RevDaniel]

would be interesting if hatchlings come out of this.

[ssssnakeman]

both live bearers pythoness,but still very different.Thes two have occupied the same habitats in the same areas for a very long time and it hasnt ever occured naturally, that i know of.
The people at n.e.r.d. would definiatly be able to achieve it artificially i would imagine,but theyre still to busy with comas etc..

[phoenix]

Originally Posted by RevDaniel

would be interesting if hatchlings come out of this.

if, but, when...sorry mate it aint going to happen!

[mitchdiamond]

Would they be called ''hatchys'' if they were born alive?

[cement]

Would they be tigerheads? Or coppergers? Ha

[SlothHead]

I dont understand why people are so certain that this isnt going to actually work?
Please explain, shopping trolley stolen

[pythoness]

Originally Posted by cement

Would they be tigerheads? Or coppergers? Ha

or copper tigerheads? lol

[SG]

I have heard so many arguments on this subject and everyone has a different opinion.
I Don't think it is something that should be encouraged at all for obvious reasons but in saying that, if other animals such as birds and that cross what is stopping snakes .

It would be nearly impossible to know if they do it in the wild unless everyone you caught to relocate was tested but in captive I just think it should be best left the way it should be, black to black, tiger to tiger.

[elapid68]

Originally Posted by Snake_Girl

I have heard so many arguments on this subject and everyone has a different opinion.
I Don't think it is something that should be encouraged at all for obvious reasons but in saying that, if other animals such as birds and that cross what is stopping snakes .

The problem is genetics. You can successfully cross different species within the same genus, but different genuses shouldn't be able to breed.
You mention other animals such as bird that cross. Yes that's true but again it's usually within the same genus, but in this case it would be like breeding a sparrow with a magpie. Both are birds, but it ain't going to happen.

[Chimera]

I think that's the point and the reason this could (yes I said could) be exciting. If there were offspring it would force a rethink of both the Notechis and Austrelaps genuses.

I'd agree that hybrids of elapids should be discouraged (not even going to enter the debate about other hybrids). But both snakes seemed to be about the same size based on the limited amount you can see in the pic, they also occupy similar environments in the wild so I think you could be forgiven for housing them together temporarily. I'm sure breeding the 2 would not be considered in the slightest.

I don't think anything will come of it, but it would certainly shake things up if something did.

[Deano]

Very interesting, lets see what happens keep us posted.....................

[TrueBlue]

keeping a tiger and a copperhead together is asking for trouble imo, both are canabilistic and are capable of eating each other.

[hornet]

Originally Posted by elapid68

The problem is genetics. You can successfully cross different species within the same genus, but different genuses shouldn't be able to breed.
You mention other animals such as bird that cross. Yes that's true but again it's usually within the same genus, but in this case it would be like breeding a sparrow with a magpie. Both are birds, but it ain't going to happen.

no it would be more like crossing a zebra finch with a gouldian finch, different genus, same group

[copperhead]

May I ask why were they housed together?

They were housed together because at the time i only had the one tank, which was a sufficient size to house the two snakes. The copperhead is considerablly smaller than the tiger and i was told they would co-exist fine together as long as the copperhead remained smaller than the tiger, and they have been housed together for some time with no incident. I had absoloutely no intention or hope to ever have the two snakes mate, i had no idea it was possible, but it did happen, and im not saying anything will come of it because it probably wont but it was something interesting to think about.