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22-May-07, 07:40 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: May-07 Location: newcastle Age/Gender: 13  | | | is it bad to put sand with your snake? hi all
i was wandering if it was bad to put sand (of any type) in your enclosure with your snake?
could it be caught in the rodent and then fed to your snake? 
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22-May-07, 07:46 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-06 Age: 34 | | | | Depending on the snake I guess. Burrowing snakes would appreciate the sand but I've been told that sand is no good for most, particularly pythons. It clumps and can get caught in their digestive system.
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22-May-07, 07:48 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: Australia Gender:  | | | | I keep my coastal on sand and i have this big piece of slate in there which i feed her on... | 
22-May-07, 07:49 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: Western Sydney Age/Gender: 17  | | | | ig got all my snakes on sand i just feed them of the sand . | 
22-May-07, 07:50 PM
|  | Electrical Snake Subscriber | Join Date: Aug-06 Location: Inner-West Sydney Age/Gender: 20  | | | | No stay away from sand like the plague lol.. It gets caught in snakes scales and causes irritation/infection, if ingested can cause impactions as they cant digest it, and its too hard to keep clean. Just stick with breeders choice, newspaper/butchers paper, marine carpet or the fake grass stuff that veggie shops put their fruit on. This is all IMO as other people may disagree. | 
22-May-07, 07:59 PM
| | | | nah, i would never ever use sand. i use newspaper or breeders choice. thats it. and i never feed in the enclosure. i always feed in a seperate feeding enclosure | 
22-May-07, 08:00 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: sunshine coast QLD | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by slip_phreak No stay away from sand like the plague lol.. It gets caught in snakes scales and causes irritation/infection, if ingested can cause impactions as they cant digest it, and its too hard to keep clean. Just stick with breeders choice, newspaper/butchers paper, marine carpet or the fake grass stuff that veggie shops put their fruit on. This is all IMO as other people may disagree. | i agree | 
23-May-07, 03:19 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: May-07 Location: newcastle Age/Gender: 13  | | | | ok every one i will stay away from the sand thanx for the info
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27-May-07, 09:42 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: May-07 Location: Sydney NSW 2110 Gender:  | | | | 1. it sucks all of the moisture
2. Respiratory problems due to excessive dust, particularly common with snakes/lizards that dig underneath it.
3. Possibillity of pieces getting stuck in the snakes mouth, or consumed then causing impaction.
4. It encourages people to 'spot clean' instead of disinfecting the cage thoroughly. Often urine will soak through to the floor and will be absorbed by pellets which are then left behind when cleaning. Also, most people won't bother to disinfect the floor, they just scoop and replace leaving all the bacteria behind. This is a very bad practice.
5. It is often hard to notice when your snake has relieved itself, especially if it has only urinated and even moreso if the cage has a lot of decorations (eg. fake plants). You should see what the result is if these urine soaked pellets are left in a cage for several weeks/months!
6. Although not usually as serious as the abovementioned, another problem i came across was when my White's Skinks who through the course of digging/burrowing in it, would fill the water bowl up with pellets, which would quickly suck up all of the water, leaving you with some thirsty lizards!
7. I have also heard stories of people finding staples and other such things in their pellets which obviously can't be good.
8. Mites love it! | 
27-May-07, 09:54 AM
|  | Necker Cube Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: NSW | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikki_elmo10 1. it sucks all of the moisture
2. Respiratory problems due to excessive dust, particularly common with snakes/lizards that dig underneath it.
3. Possibillity of pieces getting stuck in the snakes mouth, or consumed then causing impaction.
4. It encourages people to 'spot clean' instead of disinfecting the cage thoroughly. Often urine will soak through to the floor and will be absorbed by pellets which are then left behind when cleaning. Also, most people won't bother to disinfect the floor, they just scoop and replace leaving all the bacteria behind. This is a very bad practice.
5. It is often hard to notice when your snake has relieved itself, especially if it has only urinated and even moreso if the cage has a lot of decorations (eg. fake plants). You should see what the result is if these urine soaked pellets are left in a cage for several weeks/months!
6. Although not usually as serious as the abovementioned, another problem i came across was when my White's Skinks who through the course of digging/burrowing in it, would fill the water bowl up with pellets, which would quickly suck up all of the water, leaving you with some thirsty lizards!
7. I have also heard stories of people finding staples and other such things in their pellets which obviously can't be good.
8. Mites love it! | This was a statement made by MrBredli in relation to breeders choice. This can be found here 8 Reasons Not To Use Breeder's Choice I'd suggest reading this whole thread if you are interested in reading up about substrates.
It is best to avoid sand for most (if not all) commonly kept snakes.
Nikki_elmo10, please state where you get the info from  |  | |