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is this real

is this real http://www.reptilesdownunder.com/ahc/pics/13347.jpg
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i think so
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crazy!!!!!!!
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its crazy what he does to them so he can handle them like that
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do they have there venom glands ripped out
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I want to be a snakehandler or anyjob working with snakes

I think taking the venom glands out is abit harsh there not quite classed as venomouse then are they.

cheers Jody
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I used to go the RH shows couldn't beleave what he did - defang, fly spray to name a couple of things he told me was used. The kids where three feet from the stage and he would just grab a hand full of vems drop them on a table and talk about them - at one point he drop a death adder on the floor and pick it up like it was just a plastic snake.
And he also told me he had a high death rate. Poor snakes.
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do they have there venom glands ripped out
You could sort of say that, Welcome to another Raymond Hoser thread. LOL

Simone.
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he sounds like he is very cruel how does he get too treat snakes this way, he must be licenced to do what he does I just think it is very wrong. what is it teaching people these days exspecially children? that a ven is fine to be throwing around that it won't hert you! just really wrong.
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Check it out and make up your own mind.There are links to the procedures he uses written by him.
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hoser doesnt practice half the cuel practices his labeled with!!! His actually known by many as a really good guy, and loves his snakes! im not calling anyone a fibber or anything, but i happen to know the high death rate is completely untrue... And the meathods he uses to turn venomous to venemoid arent as simple asonly removing the venom glands, otherwise he wouldnt be the only guy around doing it! he is a very intelegent dude...and its easy to see how what he does gets such a bad wrap and causes such a negative reaction........ but really in all seriousness wether you agree with it or not, he doesnt practice the cruelty his branded with (the authorities would shut him down if he did!), and he has a near unbelievable success rate.

i dont like the idea of it, but i also dont like the idea of posting here say on a public forum from people who not only dont understand the techniques he uses, but assume they do.
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sounds like someone has surgically removed his testicles ! if he had any balls he would do demonstrations with real elapids..
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hoser doesnt practice half the cuel practices his labeled with!!! His actually known by many as a really good guy, and loves his snakes! im not calling anyone a fibber or anything, but i happen to know the high death rate is completely untrue... And the meathods he uses to turn venomous to venemoid arent as simple asonly removing the venom glands, otherwise he wouldnt be the only guy around doing it! he is a very intelegent dude...and its easy to see how what he does gets such a bad wrap and causes such a negative reaction........ but really in all seriousness wether you agree with it or not, he doesnt practice the cruelty his branded with (the authorities would shut him down if he did!), and he has a near unbelievable success rate.

i dont like the idea of it, but i also dont like the idea of posting here say on a public forum from people who not only dont understand the techniques he uses, but assume they do.
if he loved his snake he whould not do that to them he is a man that is scared of real elapids
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