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28-May-04, 05:00 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Mar-04 Location: Brisbane | | | | no | 
28-May-04, 05:03 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-04 Location: sydney | | | | what kind would they be? | 
28-May-04, 05:10 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Mar-04 Location: Brisbane | | | | just lower quality.
Mine cost $800.00 each.
No one is going to sell $800.00 dollar snakes for $290.00.
I bought a pair of jungles off a guy from S.A. once. They were $450.00 each.
He said he did not believe carpets were worth $800.00, he also said his were as good as any.
Well to make a long story short, he sent me different animals to those I had requested and they were no where near as good as others I had seen.
Moral of the story is you get what you pay for.... There is no such thing as a free lunch.....If it sounds too good to be true it probably is....Not all jungles are created equal. LOL
Save up and buy some good ones. | 
21-Jun-04, 07:20 PM
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21-Jun-04, 07:26 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-04 Location: North Brisbane Metro | | | Is that the one my wife held yesterday ?
She has not stopped talking about getting them now !
At least she isnt complaining about the price lol 
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21-Jun-04, 07:35 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: Townsville Age: 36 | | | | nice pics junglepython,good to see you got your moneys worth and great to see you naming the breeder.i disagree with you to a certain extent.as i mainly breed jungles and sell quite a few animals,i talk to a lot of ppl.i know many ppl who paid $800 hundred for a jungle and ended up with crap.i could never justify selling jungles for more than $500.i've seen $800 animals i wouldn't even own.just my opinion.
obee
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21-Jun-04, 07:44 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Mar-04 Location: Brisbane | | | | yeah I understand what you are saying, I have seen some bloody ugly jungles come from the same clutch as stunning ones.
Market demand sets the price and I dont mind paying top dollar if I know I am getting animals from good lines.
Thanks for the reply, I am happy with her, she is not as clean as I would like but her yellow is really intense in real life.
Cheers
Luke
Doberman, yeah this is the girl your wife held. She definately seemed tp like it. | 
21-Jun-04, 07:49 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-04 Location: North Brisbane Metro | | | | When they are hatchlings are they as bright as that or do they get brighter as they get older ?
If not what do you look for to pick one ? parents colour only ? or are there other factors ?
Obee that snake is awesome in real life and it didnt strike once while my wife was holding her !
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21-Jun-04, 08:31 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: NTH QLD | | | | Very nice Jungle!!!Sometimes i prefer the look of jungles with the black smudging.....i think it makes them look more jungley"wild type" if you know what i mean.
The saying is you get what you pay for but you can still pay top dollar for a jungle and have it turn out nothing special as has been said.Many colour up beautifully but start going downhill and fading around 3 years old.
Anyone got more pics of their jungles?I love em all!!!
Pic of a yearling Stone jungle....He has a beautiful temperament and has never even attempted to bite........
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21-Jun-04, 08:32 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-03 Location: melbourne | | | holy crap
that snake is awesome! | 
21-Jun-04, 10:29 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-03 Location: NTH QLD | | | | Here's one from URS....Palmerston form.
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22-Jun-04, 12:52 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Mar-04 Location: Brisbane | | | | Doberman
When the jungles are born they are not coloured like adults. If I recall correctly there is at least one pic of a jungle emerging from an egg in "Pythons of the World".
Jungles take quite a while to reach their "best". This is why many breeders will hold back their offspring for sometime, selling them at 6-12 months of age. The idea is at this age the snakes have coloured up somewhat and you have a better chance of picking nice examples.
I have bought most of mine this way and I am happy with the result.
To be honest I feel I pay for the bloodlines, and only when I breed from them do I actually get to pick the prized animals I have paid all this money for.
It is true that you can get ugly jungles from great parents, but I think this is a big part of what makes a beautiful jungle all that more special.
So you can either buy hatchlings or juviniles or even search for adults, each has its pros and cons.
Cheers
Luke | 
22-Jun-04, 01:25 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-03 Location: Loganlea.Sth Brisbane.QLD | | | | I Was thinking if an ordinary looking jungle was thrown from some beautifully coloured and marked adults,wouldn't there be a possibility that the ordinary's might throw some nice hatchies when they are old enough to breed,provided you had a nice partner for them? | 
22-Jun-04, 01:30 PM
| | | | yeah man orcorse. its all in genetics. | 
22-Jun-04, 01:38 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Mar-04 Location: Brisbane | | | | I imagine they would improve generally.
I have bred heaps of pet rats of various colours. We had black rats that started out fairly normal(black with white feet etc). We bred these rats to other black rats and continued to linebreed them only with black rats. After five generations the intensity of the black was far improved and the colouring covered the whole body down onto the nails.
You may get nice animals from one good parent but in the long run I think it is better to have nice examples on both sides of the family tree. Hopefully this will increase consistency. Dave Barker suggested at one point that the colouring was polygenic in its expression which if true complicates things. |  | | |