Laws Regarding Snake Catching etc??

[salebrosus]

Hey Guys,

I don't really pay attention to other states laws etc in regards to reptile keeping and this question as mostly to do with South Australia. Does anyone in south aussie have a licence to collect reptiles etc like they do in WA? I'm curious to know as i have a work friend who owns a property somewhere just outside of Adelaide and he has admitted to killing the Tiger Snakes he gets on the farm and the occasional Brown he gets at home. I'm just trying to find alternatives that won't cost him money but will help keep the snakes from getting killed. I have learnt that i might not be able to change peoples opinions but if i can give him another option other than the snakes getting killed i'd be pretty happy. If it was legal i'd catch and keep the bloody things myself. Anyone in SA who can help?

Cheers,

Simone.

[katana]

Tell your friend that he is comitting a crime by killing a protected species and the report him to npws.
Ignorance is not an excuse

[Pythoninfinite]

I Think you'll find that if you kill a venomous snake and can demonstrate that it posed a threat, no prosecution will follow, even if the snake is protected, and probably even if the threat was pretty vague... If you go out blasting tigers in a swamp, different story.

J.

[URS]

Simone,

Here is a couple of links that might help you out.

http://www.parks.sa.gov.au/publish/g...pdfs_snake.pdf

http://www.parks.sa.gov.au/publish/g..._take_prot.pdf

Regards Tim

[snakes4me2]

Originally Posted by katana

Tell your friend that he is comitting a crime by killing a protected species and the report him to npws.
Ignorance is not an excuse

Alot of people dont care if they are commiting a crime by killing snakes, they see them as a threat and its better to kill than be killed (in their minds) and if they have kids around and nobody to catch them thats what they will do.
Not saying I agree with this as my kids are educated about snakes I hope they would have the brains to stay away.

Would you dob in one of your mates or try help them find a better way to remove the snakes?

[salebrosus]

Thanks snakes4me2, you saved me replying......telling somone they are committing a crime only gets their back up, not one has ever felt bad when i have said killing a snake is a crime, in fact they find it more amusing and heroic.
I just want to offer my work mate an alternative to killing them cos no matter what the laws are i don't think anyone has ever been really deterred from killing a snake. Somone told me in the NT some pople are allowed to catch the reptiles on their property then sell them off later..... I wouldn't have a clue if this was just crap or not but if such a law existed in SA it would stop quite a few tiger snakes from meeting the end of a shovel.

Simone.

P.S. Thanks heaps for those links URS.

Simone.

[aussiesnakelover]

pretty sure thats crap here in in NT
people can apply for a permit and they need to have be granted by both the government and the land owners of where they plan to take them from and if it was venemous stuff they would obviously need experince and they also need a good reason such as a scientific reason and i guess they would be able to sell them when the research is done because you cant let them go again

no random can do it legally though and i think NT is the loosest with their laws

[snakegal]

Who says you have to tell them-just anonomously report them to the DSE/NRE (whatever the governing body is in NSW).

At the end of the day if you believe they are doing the wrong thing, you are well within your rights. Snakes have it hard enough with habitat loss etc...they don't need rednecks going around slaughtering them.

Good on you for wanting to help these poor little guys!

Originally Posted by johnbowemonie

Thanks snakes4me2, you saved me replying......telling somone they are committing a crime only gets their back up, not one has ever felt bad when i have said killing a snake is a crime, in fact they find it more amusing and heroic.
I just want to offer my work mate an alternative to killing them cos no matter what the laws are i don't think anyone has ever been really deterred from killing a snake. Somone told me in the NT some pople are allowed to catch the reptiles on their property then sell them off later..... I wouldn't have a clue if this was just crap or not but if such a law existed in SA it would stop quite a few tiger snakes from meeting the end of a shovel.

Simone.

P.S. Thanks heaps for those links URS.

Simone.

[cris]

Anyone who thinks reporting someone for killing a 'dangerous' elapid on their own land will have any consequence is delusional IMO.

I personally wouldnt pay over $100(or whatever it would cost) to have someone come and remove a snake i felt threatened by, if i lived out in the sticks and I wouldnt expect others to either. If however they go out of their way to kill something thats not a real threat that is very bad.

The best thing to do IMO is tell them to keep the area around their house clean and tidy with no piles of sheet metal, timber etc. Control the rodents that live there and dont have any ponds or water that frogs could live/breed in.

On a farm or large property killing dangerous snakes that stray into your house or yard isnt going to have any real impact on their population and theres a fair chance if someone drives a long way to rescue it that they would run something over when driving, not to mention wasting fuel, money, causing pollution etc.

You could always tell them to leave there house and come back later and hope its gone, the snakes were there first after all :roll:

[salebrosus]

Yeah i've offered those solutions but what i really want is somone to say " HEY SIMONE IT'S LEGAL TO COME HELP YOURSELF TO THESE ANIMALS " Failing that are there any WIRES organisations in SA that due free reptile rescues etc?

Simone.

[Thor1]

check out fauna rescue SA

[mickousley]

you need to have aSA reptile keeperes licence first not a NSW then a fee per reptile after an aplication is lodged i tryed to get one for tiger snakes my self but they said i had to be SA
Mick

[Greebo]

Originally Posted by katana

Tell your friend that he is comitting a crime by killing a protected species and the report him to npws.
Ignorance is not an excuse

I admire your optimism......everyone knows that speeding is against the law...doesn't stop a lot of us though does it?

[salebrosus]

Ha ha ha ha thanks Greebo i didn't look at it like that either. And i am a total hoon for sure!

Simone.

[katana]

Originally Posted by snakes4me2

Alot of people dont care if they are commiting a crime by killing snakes, they see them as a threat and its better to kill than be killed (in their minds) and if they have kids around and nobody to catch them thats what they will do.
Not saying I agree with this as my kids are educated about snakes I hope they would have the brains to stay away.

Would you dob in one of your mates or try help them find a better way to remove the snakes?

You call yourself a snake enthusiast :roll:

Its not like the guy is an 8 year old who doesn't know any better he is a grown man who needs to know he is breaking the law.
Im sure the snakes don't chase him to the point where he needs to kill them just seems he is another "snakes are out to kill me" moron.

If my mate was ignoring my advice and still continued to kill a protected species (Which im sure the guy this thread is about knows) i would call the NPWS i would rather be a "dobber" then an ignorant moron who would let his mates continue to kill animals :roll: