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29-Dec-05, 11:31 AM
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Thanks Tim, i'll see what i can find out...
Pike; the two hypo? juv's were the result from two sisters;
bred with a unrelated male, one juv from each girl....
thanks everyone for your thoughts....
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29-Dec-05, 12:40 PM
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boa,- inbreeding for up to 3 generations will not harm your animals at all, this has been proven many times in captivity and I dare say in the wild, with a number of invasions of exotic animals in different countries where inbreeding would of been imense. ie brown tree snakes in gaum and hawai to name 2.
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29-Dec-05, 12:45 PM
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I think you missed the smiley after my comment. I was referring to the opinions of some on here, a certain very famous American python breeder has shown 7 or even 8 generations showed absolutely no problems. No need to convince me, it's the only sure fire way to achieve the traits we all crave. Quote: |
Originally Posted by TrueBlue boa,- inbreeding for up to 3 generations will not harm your animals at all, this has been proven many times in captivity and I dare say in the wild, with a number of invasions of exotic animals in different countries where inbreeding would of been imense. ie brown tree snakes in gaum and hawai to name 2. |
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29-Dec-05, 12:47 PM
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Cane toads in Australia? All bred from 10 animals or something.
Nice BHP by the way.
It seems almost like the genetic basis for the black head is diferent for that of the black stripes, however those true albino BHP's had no black at all, so I guess it's not that.
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29-Dec-05, 12:55 PM
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Was it just 10 animals ? Yes I think the rules for reptiles and amphibians are totally different than for warm blooded animals as far as inbreeding.
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29-Dec-05, 01:10 PM
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So thats what happened to me.
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29-Dec-05, 01:21 PM
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Maybe there were some sheep in the mix as well ?
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29-Dec-05, 01:31 PM
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yeah her name was baaaaaabara
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29-Dec-05, 01:56 PM
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Stunning snakes your lucky friend has there, Indicus. Would love to see pics of them as they become older!
Boa, your fingers just saved your throat from becoming a little sorer... I was one of those that thought hypo meant no black. Glad I know different now. Thanks | 
29-Dec-05, 02:19 PM
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No problem, it's just one of those questions that gets asked over and over and over Quote: |
Originally Posted by reptililian Boa, your fingers just saved your throat from becoming a little sorer... I was one of those that thought hypo meant no black. Glad I know different now. Thanks  |
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29-Dec-05, 03:38 PM
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yeah her name was baaaaaabara
| hey trueblue,
don't talk about my mum like that, lol,
i spent 3 months in nz 4 years ago and still get all the sheep jokes,
now i try to beat them to it, like when ever i see a sheep i tell them
it looks like me, lol,
great bhp's tremain, tell your mate he's done well, now some hypo bhp's
would be something i'd like, hope they keep breeding for him,
cheers,
steve........
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29-Dec-05, 03:55 PM
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if it shows an hypo colour body but an everage jet black head (not just brown as supposed by URS) we could call it "paradox" as the albino Ball python morph with scattered black blotches.
Cheers
Stefano
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29-Dec-05, 03:56 PM
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Hi Indicus,
I have seen a few Hypo BHP's both here and in the UK, USA, but they do look like stunners your friend has there.
Has he bred the adults before? Or was it just the first time with this male?
Neil
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29-Dec-05, 04:28 PM
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Well yes it would fit that name quite well, a paradox albino, like you say, has patches of colour which should in theory not be possible. Natures funny like that Quote: |
Originally Posted by GetCoiled if it shows an hypo colour body but an everage jet black head (not just brown as supposed by URS) we could call it "paradox" as the albino Ball python morph with scattered black blotches.
Cheers
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29-Dec-05, 11:02 PM
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Hi Neil,
It's the first time they bred; Lucky bugger :mrgreen:
So it's a paradox; Stefano.....
lol....I really do have a hard time,
keeping up with all the modern lingo....
thanks for your input :wink:
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