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05-Apr-07, 11:35 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Mar-06 Location: Melbourne Gender:  | | | | how olds the snake and chicken it's eatin?
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06-Apr-07, 12:47 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-06 Location: Holsworthy, Sydney. | | | | Snake was age unknown for sure, but the chicken was about 1.2kilos old! lol
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06-Apr-07, 02:05 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Dec-06 Location: Mornington Peninsula Gender:  | | | | Interesting are the chickens free range or commercial? Would like to see a studie done of the next couple of generations. Growing up Chook was a treat and no growth hormone etc, my kids used to eat it on a regular basis, they are both way taller have bigger feet etc than they should looking at their genetics, Their diet is not so much better than what their mine was in fact in a lot of ways poorer too much processed food. But a regular diet of growth hormone is now showing its effects. My kids no longer eat mass farmed chicken, they eat free range, I shudder to think what their eventual offspring may look like. Example I am 5'4 wear a size 5 shoe partner 5'8 size 7 shoe youngest daughter 13, 5'6 shoe size9 and that is a mens 9 next sibling up 21 shoe size 13 | 
06-Apr-07, 10:15 AM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Mar-06 Location: Melbourne Gender:  | | | | Meh . . . .this was a one off for her and another that ate one (one other was offered but refused and went into a shed) the other one that ate it was a childreni (16months old) the chickens were bought froim the pet shop, they get them from somewhere that breeds them for snakes, and doesn't pump them full of hormones to grow, not to sure on the age but i think they were one or two days.
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06-Apr-07, 12:18 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-06 Location: Holsworthy, Sydney. | | | | These chickens i used to get off a very good friend of mine. No hormones, as they were bred for egg laying, not eating.
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06-Apr-07, 02:53 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Mar-06 Location: Melbourne Gender:  | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Teamsherman These chickens i used to get off a very good friend of mine. No hormones, as they were bred for egg laying, not eating. | Even better, but it did end up getting eaten 
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06-Apr-07, 03:24 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Aug-06 Location: Newcastle Age: 20 | | | | could have somthing to do with the growth hormones in chickens
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06-Apr-07, 03:26 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: May-06 Location: Somewhere in between the beach and the bush Age/Gender: 27  | | | | it'll end up with a c cup soon
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06-Apr-07, 03:29 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: sunshine coast QLD | | | | hormones are a load of crap its bull **** you get a day old dhicken and feed it cruahed grains until its big enough for what ever snake is eating it how would it be pumped full of hormones | 
06-Apr-07, 03:34 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: sunshine coast QLD | | | oh and check Food Myths
Old–fashioned myths about food still dominate many Australian consumers’ eating habits.
In research conducted by the AFGC in October 2001, the nation’s top three food myths—unsafe to refreeze meat after it has been thawed, red food colouring makes children hyperactive and chickens are fed growth hormones—all were wrong! 3. Chickens are often given growth hormones to improve production
Unfortunately, a large number of people in Australia still believe that chickens are fed hormones. In part, this stems from a television program in July 1985 in which hormonal abnormalities in young women in the Caribbean Island of Puerto Rico were linked to feeding of hormones (oestrogen) to chickens.
Without actually saying so, the story implied that the feeding of oestrogen to chickens was a common practice worldwide—and indeed a practice followed in Australia.
However, the feeding of oestrogen to chickens was banned in Australia in the early 1960s—more than four decades ago.
In order to maintain consumer confidence in poultry products, the Commonwealth Government’s National Residue Survey (NRS) regularly tests for growth hormones. No residues have ever been detected. NRS test results can be obtained from the NRS website www.nrs.gov.au/residues/residues.html or by calling (02) 6272 3446. 80% of people surveyed believed this myth to be true. | 
06-Apr-07, 03:35 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-06 Location: Sydney Age/Gender: 20  | | | | All chickens in australia r hormone free
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06-Apr-07, 04:30 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-06 Location: Holsworthy, Sydney. | | | | Yes, with all the worry about hormones in chickens, people tend to forget about all the anti-biotics they actually do pump them full of.
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06-Apr-07, 04:31 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-06 Location: Sydney Age/Gender: 20  | | | | Yes they do use antibiotics.
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06-Apr-07, 09:08 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-07 Location: sunshine coast QLD | | | Antibiotics Policy of the
Australian Chicken Meat Industry Version 2. 26 October 2005
Executive Summary The primary objective of the chicken meat industry is to produce a healthy food. Chicken meat produced in Australia is healthy and nutritious. Eating chicken meat does not expose consumers to antibiotic residues or antibiotic resistance.
Antibiotics are substances that kill or inhibit the growth of bacteria and related microorganisms and are essential in human and animal medicine.
The use of antibiotics in chicken meat production in Australia is limited to two important functions: therapeutic agents (ie applied to treat the clinical symptoms of a bacterial infection) prophylactic agents (ie applied to healthy animals deemed to be at risk of infection to prevent disease occurring). This policy sets out the guiding principles for the chicken meat industry to ensure that: development of antibiotic resistance is minimised; and chicken meat is not contaminated with antibiotic residues. The industry funds research into alternatives such as vaccines for the use of antibiotics in chicken production, both at an industry-wide and individual company level. It also universally supports the Australian Government’s National Residue Survey, which conducts regular independent checks of residues of antibiotics in chicken meat in Australia. This testing has consistently shown that chicken meat does not contain residues of antibiotics in Australia. | 
06-Apr-07, 09:24 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Oct-05 Location: Blacktown Age: 29 | | | | I am sorry to hijack the thread and continue the discussion re growth hormones in chickens but I have to point out the facts.
Chickens bred for eating are in fact fed growth hormones. I know for a fact as my family are involved in the breeding of chickens for a well known (I won't say which company) Chicken company. The chickens he has are kept for a grand total of 6 weeks. This is from 1 day old(many arrive still partly in their eggs) until sent out to be killed. The normal growth rates of a chicken are too slow for the speed in which we, the general population, eat chicken. They therefore have a variety of steroids and other growth hormones in their food. Those that do not grow quickly enough die as the bowls that contain their food are pulled higher daily as is their water. The turnover of 50,000 chickens each batch is as stated only 6 weeks.
If you dont believe me, go and buy two frozen chickens. Get one from a free range company and one from a regular (eg, Steggles, Baida etc). Once cooked, compare the colour of the chicken meat. I guarantee you the free range meat will be much whiter than the regular.
A chicken bred for eating will in fact not be able to stand or walk properly if it is not killed at 6 weeks as its legs will not be able to carry the weight of the body. (I learnt this the hard way!!)
Just FYI.....
Mel
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