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04-May-08, 12:44 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Feb-08 Location: maitland Gender:  | | | | most snakes can be weaned on fresh kill ive only used live in a case of emergency when a snake wouldn't feed on anything else and was starving thats the only time i think is should be used for the welfare of the snake
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04-May-08, 12:53 PM
|  | Reptile Addict :D Subscriber | Join Date: Jan-07 Location: Margate, Queensland Age/Gender: 18  | | | | I have an adult Stimson Python and she eats 60g Weaner Rats, So your snake should be able to eat a mouse that size.
On the note of the "live" feeding, I'll just leave that as everyone else has already commented on it.
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04-May-08, 05:23 PM
| | | | Thanks again guys, last time she had trouble shedding and wouldn't eat anything for three months so i thought i'd go and get one and he took it straight away so i kept with it, so i'll give all your idea's a go cause i'd prefer to have frozen ones on hand its heaps easier.
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05-May-08, 12:17 PM
|  | hazzy wazzy Subscriber | | | | | My question is do they judge the size of it before they go in? Has anyone else had this problem?
Yes they do size it up! Sometimes they actually reject based on this information. In this case however no. The item would have to be many times bigger than that to just reject if it was hungry.
For example, at the CARA conference yesterday one of the presenters produced a photo of an imbricata of 4kg in size consuming a 4kg tamar wallaby. Whilst it would probably not eat again for 6 months it shows you they are adapted to take enormous prey if they have to.
In your case it probably has to do more with the husbandry. During the cooler months antaresia and many other snakes go off their food not only in relation to the fall in temperature, but in response to photoperiod. Your python looks big and healthy and may not eat again until Spring, which is fine.
What are you cage temperatures like, ambient temp and hot spot temp etc.
The only issue i'd mention regarding live feeding is that you never leave the rodent unattended for the snake to restrain. If the snake doesn't want to eat, many rodents can get savage and attack the snake.
Although everyone knows it's illegal many people do it to entice a feeding response. If you do want to wean, often feeding a fresh killed straight after the live works well, until eventually they accept fresh killed. Or if defrosting, try defrosting dry in a snap lock bag so the mouse is dry when being fed (sometimes that works).
As i said i suspect here that the snake is just cycling itself for winter.
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05-May-08, 12:26 PM
|  | Invert nut Subscriber | Join Date: Oct-05 Location: QLD Gender:  | | | | As for weaning onto pre-killed prey. Its alot of patience, try scenting with skink and start off with fresh killed. Try wiggling it around in from of the snake but dont do what some do and bask it over the head, just stresses the snake.
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05-May-08, 01:00 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-06 Location: Hamilton Gender:  | | | Back on topic  you may even it will take a defrosted rat either weanling or sub adult without to much hassle I had a diamond once that took about 16 months to get on to frozen/defrosted but found it alot quicker when and easier once he was taking rats. Hope this gets the thread some what back on topic and not the BS thats gone on over the last 2 pages  | 
05-May-08, 01:12 PM
|  | FAYSE! Moderator | Join Date: Jun-05 Location: Illawarra Gender:  | | | | Please read the site rules and be aware that it is illegal to feed live rodents. |  | |
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