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01-Oct-07, 08:58 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Oct-06 Location: Brisbane Age/Gender: 23  | | | My “diamond” - Should I be annoyed?
Hey guys,
Well, I contacted the breeder of my first snake (an Atherton) at the start of the year and asked him if I could buy a diamond off him, to which I did… I was told he was a baby high yellow diamond and I saw the parents in the flesh and they were gorgeous
Now only over the last week have I learnt about this whole “intergrade” and “port mac” business and Mrsshep77 from on here met my little guy for the first time last night and she said he isn’t a real diamond, but simply a port mac
Now, should I be annoyed at the breeder for misinforming me?
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01-Oct-07, 09:04 AM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-05 Location: Hamilton island, QLD Age/Gender: 28  | | | |
If you saw the parents and you were happy they were diamonds and the breeder says there diamonds, then why just because someone else says that its a port mac (which imo is not sub standard to a diamond) do you think that the breeder is lying?
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01-Oct-07, 09:05 AM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: May-06 Location: Gympie QLD Age/Gender: 33 | | | |
No you shouldn't because the breeder may not be aware that he is selling PM's. After the recent thread on natural intergrades I think there will be quite a few people unsure what they are actually breeding now, just my opinion
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01-Oct-07, 09:07 AM
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OR - as Donk pointed out - he MAY have sold you a perfect 'Diamond' - I have yet to see a photo of a Diamond that someone hasn't called an Intergrade or Hybrid...
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01-Oct-07, 09:09 AM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-05 Location: Hamilton island, QLD Age/Gender: 28 | | | |
Are you talking about the diamond you were going to sell in another thread? the one bred by Greg P.
If you are than imo it is 100% a diamond.
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01-Oct-07, 09:10 AM
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Yeah thats the one I was talking about
Hmmm, confusing 
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01-Oct-07, 09:11 AM
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Some pics would help.
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01-Oct-07, 09:15 AM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-05 Location: Hamilton island, QLD Age/Gender: 28 | | | |
I dont know what is more danger too our hobby, the fact that "the Morelia spilota complex can be so eaisaliy hybridised" or the " self proclaimed Diamond experts running around putting labels on every python that has an odd shaped rosette of head pattern"
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01-Oct-07, 09:15 AM
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I didn't mean that to sound like you should doubt the breeder, I agree that if you bought them as diamonds then thats what they are  |
01-Oct-07, 09:15 AM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: May-07 Location: Brisbane Age/Gender: 23 | | |
I'd be livid, if he told you it was a pure Diamond and then sold you a Port Mac you have been taken for a ride. Same thing almost happened to me, until mrsshep pointed out that the 'Diamond' I was looking at was probably a Port Mac (thanks Mell!!). Of course, the seller was trying to flog it off as a pure Diamond and me being a newbie didn't know the difference. Not cool
Then again, maybe these people just don't know what their own animals are. This is what happens when people breed hybrids or intergrades and sell them as pure... someone else buys the animal, then breeds it, sells it's offspring believing it's pure aswell. It's a vicious cycle  |
01-Oct-07, 09:19 AM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Jun-05 Location: Hamilton island, QLD Age/Gender: 28 | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss B  . Same thing almost happened to me, until mrsshep pointed out that the 'Diamond' I was looking at was probably a Port Mac (thanks Mell!!). Of course, the seller was trying to flog it off as a pure Diamond and me being a newbie didn't know the difference. Not cool
Then again, maybe these people just don't know what their own animals are. |
No offfence but what makes mrsshep an expert on other peoples animals, why would respectable breeders know less about there animals than she does?
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01-Oct-07, 09:20 AM
|  | Josh! Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: Bulli, N.S.W Age/Gender: 24 | | | |
Pics Please
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01-Oct-07, 09:21 AM
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Can you post a pic ??
It is very hard to tell , and this is the problem with diamonds .
but if you were happy with it and viewed the parents , then you really have no argument IMO as you will see on here every second diamond photo posted is questioned or this is a huge amount of confusion as to what it is .
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01-Oct-07, 09:21 AM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: May-07 Location: Brisbane Age/Gender: 23 | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by da_donkey No offfence but what makes mrsshep an expert on other peoples animals, why would respectable breeders know less about there animals than she does? | What makes you think it was a respectable breeder?
This was on RDU, I have no idea as to the integrity of the breeder. There are plenty of shonky people out there and I, being a noob, did not even know what the heck a 'Port Mac' was until fairly recently.
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01-Oct-07, 09:21 AM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: May-06 Location: Gympie QLD Age/Gender: 33 | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by da_donkey I dont know what is more danger too our hobby, the fact that "the Morelia spilota complex can be so eaisaliy hybridised" or the " self proclaimed Diamond experts running around putting labels on every python that has an odd shaped rosette of head pattern" | I see what your saying mate | | |
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