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05-Mar-08, 02:46 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-08 Location: Dublin for now Age/Gender: 28  | | |  My first elapid
Hi
My name is Miles
I am an Aussie living in Dublin currently
Just quit my job and coming home in a month or two
I am keeping a lot of colourbrids (corns, kings, milks, bulls, gophers, trinkets, etc) and a rear fanged (boiga cyanea) currently. I treat the boiga like a hot even though it is rear fanged cos I dont want a bite!
Anyway.
I love red bellied black snakes
Interested in getting one. I know I need an advanced licence but I am probably settling in Victoria again, so it wont be an issue.
Are these the best choice as a first elapid?
Anyone here been bit?
I hear there have been no fatalities.
Had I stayed here I was getting a copperhead viper next week! |
05-Mar-08, 04:28 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-07 Location: Cairns Age/Gender: 22 | | | | its a good choice for a first elapid...
im a big fan of the hoplocephalus genus... pale heads, stephen bandeds etc, but the black snakes are beautiful snakes.
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05-Mar-08, 09:33 AM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-08 Location: central vic. Age/Gender: 56 | | | | Hey Miles, Rbb's good choice for 1st Elapid, available in Vic. Yes have been bit, couple of times, in 40 yrs, not much fun, [in fact no fun at all!] but still alive. I always understood that there has been no fatalities re bites. Welcome back! |
05-Mar-08, 09:44 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-08 Location: Dublin for now Age/Gender: 28 | | | | not there yet!
What about boiga species over in oz? What are there? Just brown and green tree snakes? No Mangroves? Mangoves are so pretty |
05-Mar-08, 10:13 AM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Aug-06 Location: Brisbane | | | You'll have to get a specific licence to keep elapids. Depending on which state you live in it may take time to get one. Some states require you to have a recreational licence for atleast 12months before you can upgrade to keep elapids. Others require you to complete a course before applying for a restricted permit. References are always asked for also. Future elapid keepers.
Safe trip back home mate
Den |
05-Mar-08, 10:16 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-08 Location: Victoria Gender:  | | | With the keeping of venomous snakes, are you not worried about being bitten and dying? 
Is there a certain safety protocol you follow when you are handling them? In case of a bite I mean?
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05-Mar-08, 01:44 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-08 Location: central vic. Age/Gender: 56 | | | | Handle them very carefully, with the appropriate tools!
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05-Mar-08, 01:56 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Apr-07 Location: Vic | | | | As you stated getting your lic to keep venomous snakes in victoria is very easy. RBBS is a great choice, my first ven was an RBBS. RBBS are usually quite calm in captivity. Bites aren't real deadly from what I hear, havn't been biten myself but I think there's only been one recorded death? RBBS are fairly easily bought too, next season I think there will be a lot available. Let me know when you are chasing one.
Punja
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05-Mar-08, 09:18 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-08 Location: Dublin for now Age/Gender: 28 | | | | I am going to be BLOODY careful!
I touch down May 5, so, depending on how long it takes me to get a place and a licence, I should be buying before June.
They seem cheap too.
It is odd. Here a nice boa will cost you AUD500, whereas a rattlesnake will cost you AUD70!
In VIC, do I need a written reference? Can it come from someone outside VIC? |
05-Mar-08, 09:45 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-08 Location: Victoria Gender: | | | It took 16 days to get my licence back (here in Vic) but it did take someone else 3 weeks, so better be prepared for a bit of a wait.
The Vic Dept website has all the answers for everything else though lol http://www.dse.vic.gov.au/DSE/nrenpa...DE8EA#Advanced
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05-Mar-08, 09:56 PM
|  | Sponsor | Join Date: Jun-07 Location: adelaide | | | | they say a bite can cause temp. or perminant loss of taste and smell.. i'm not keen to find out
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05-Mar-08, 10:03 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-08 Location: central vic. Age/Gender: 56 | | | | I know a bloke who was bitten by a Mulga hatchie, although he has shifted interstate, I understand he has lost taste and smell. I copped a servere RBB 34 yrs ago and I'm fine!
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06-Mar-08, 01:33 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-08 Location: Dublin for now Age/Gender: 28 | | | | taste and smell
how goddamn odd
useful for changing babies nappies i guess....
thought about this
not 100% sure i am ready
what rear fanged aussie snakes are there?
brown tree snakes and.... |
06-Mar-08, 01:53 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-08 Location: West of Brisbane Gender: | | | | shlanger, did you have to go to hospital and/or get antivenom? I'd love to own some rbblacks and tigers once I leave home (because Mum would FREAK if I brought one home).
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06-Mar-08, 08:33 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Mar-08 Location: Dublin for now Age/Gender: 28 | | | | So can you guys and gals tell me what rear fanged aussie snakes there are?
So far I have found boiga irregularis, couple of water snakes and thats it
I am looking for a danger factor between a carpet python and a taipan! | | |
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