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29-Nov-07, 09:16 AM
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If they're direct siblings they're most definitely not Palmerston jungles,and what's wrong with breeding siblings with each other many people do it more commonly than not!
They look like they could be anything,coastals at a guess or crosses of some sort as i haven't seen such a black coastal before that's all,maybe intergrades hey pugs
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29-Nov-07, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BROWNS If they're direct siblings they're most definitely not Palmerston jungles,and what's wrong with breeding siblings with each other many people do it more commonly than not!
They look like they could be anything,coastals at a guess or crosses of some sort as i haven't seen such a black coastal before that's all,maybe intergrades hey pugs  | Hey Browns
Don't know about breeding siblings within reptiles that is why I asked for any info on the subject as I am just starting in the breeding of reps.......Most animals have problems when interbreeding......
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29-Nov-07, 09:25 AM
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Look like coastals to me....
Nice snakes mate
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29-Nov-07, 09:38 AM
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The male almost looks like a bredli
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29-Nov-07, 10:16 AM
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Yeah no worries ozanimals,it's been proven inbreeding upto 7-8 generations in snakes doesn't cause any problems,however i wouldn't be doing it with many other animals but it doesn't seem to bother snakes at all.
A lot of people purposely put siblings across each other or son to mother to try and produce certain traits etc.You'll have no problems at all breeding those 2 together if that's what you're worried about??
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29-Nov-07, 10:34 AM
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there normal everyday carpet snakes dude,thats all there is to know some people may profess to know the exact geographical location they came from,but 99% of the time they have no idea
physical appearance characteristics is not a strong enough indicator,only DNA sampling is effective enough
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29-Nov-07, 10:44 AM
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So are you telli ng me that dna sampling will tell you if it's a Palmerston jungle or a Brisbane coastal???
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29-Nov-07, 10:56 AM
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yes,but they are a different subspecies
dna sampling will pinpoint there there origin alot more accurately
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29-Nov-07, 11:03 AM
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How much would dna testing set someone back???
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29-Nov-07, 11:18 AM
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A small fortune I would imagine, it isn't exactly a public access tool like the internet.
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29-Nov-07, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BROWNS Yeah no worries ozanimals,it's been proven inbreeding upto 7-8 generations in snakes doesn't cause any problems,however i wouldn't be doing it with many other animals but it doesn't seem to bother snakes at all.
A lot of people purposely put siblings across each other or son to mother to try and produce certain traits etc.You'll have no problems at all breeding those 2 together if that's what you're worried about?? | Thanks Browns will let you know how they turn out in a couple of years when they are old enough.
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29-Nov-07, 01:03 PM
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Contact the breeder/seller, if they cant give you some firm answers
you would be best off writting them off as "unknown", and not
breeding from them.
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29-Nov-07, 08:47 PM
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the dark one looks like how my port mac looked at that size. really similar head patterns, so if there was morem coastal in it, it would explain the very coastal looking male you have there.note: i would never buy aninterbred reptile, because i wouldn't but any animal which has been.
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