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17-Apr-08, 02:22 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Dec-07 Location: Mailtand, NSW Age/Gender: 14  | | | | Gee...thats a shame mate..ims till lookin foward to getting my first ven, which, coincidentally will be a RBBS..
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17-Apr-08, 04:28 PM
|  | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-08 Location: On the wild side Gender:  | | | | You got tagged, it's a risk that each and every elapid owner chooses to take. No matter how careful you are and experienced you are a bite is always a very real posibility... your wife should have been aware of that (and if she was not then you should have made sure she was aware BEFORE you bought the snake). Yes things change but the fact that this bite was always a posibility hasn't. At the end of the day it is up to you... last thing we need is a long thread thanking everyone for the support, either stand up to your wife and say your keeping it or sell the snake to someone who is capable of caring for it and move on.
Cheers,
Ish
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17-Apr-08, 04:47 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Dec-04 Location: Sydney Gender: | | | | I agree with everyone, get a pet guinea pig or some zebra finches. |
17-Apr-08, 05:37 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Aug-07 Location: Adelaide Gender: | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ishka  You got tagged, it's a risk that each and every elapid owner chooses to take. No matter how careful you are and experienced you are a bite is always a very real posibility... your wife should have been aware of that (and if she was not then you should have made sure she was aware BEFORE you bought the snake). Yes things change but the fact that this bite was always a posibility hasn't. At the end of the day it is up to you... last thing we need is a long thread thanking everyone for the support, either stand up to your wife and say your keeping it or sell the snake to someone who is capable of caring for it and move on.
Cheers,
Ish | It's not a matter of standing up to my wife, it's a matter of respecting her request. It is only a request though. My wife goes through hell with my health as it is and took on a lot when she married me. I'm certainly not going to give her additional worry when it's optional. And yes, she was aware of the risks before I bought the RBB, but that doesnt mean I'm going to put up a fight to keep it. We had no idea that I would have a severe secondary reaction to the venom and how much time I would have to take off work (self employed). Hope you can understand where I am coming from a little better. |
17-Apr-08, 06:05 PM
| | Subscriber | Join Date: Feb-08 Location: On the wild side Gender: | | | | If your health is such in issue then that is even more of a reason for you (and your wife) to give more careful consideration before getting a ven. If you were aware that a bite was a real posibility then you should have been aware that if you aren't in the best of health then your body probably wasn't going to stand up to a tag as well as a healthy person, therefore a ven of any description probably wasn't the wisest choice. Keepers are probably best avoiding their vens when possible (and i know... it's not always possible) even if they have something as simple as the flu, because their body will not be functioning at it's best if they were to cop a tag. Not only that, but when you aren't in good health your reflexes.. etc are not at there best, so again not the best state to be in to handle a venomous snake.
What i am saying is if you choose to sell the snake that is your choice, you have obviously chosen to follow your wife's wishes and sell up and in your position there are probably a number of people that would do the same .... i just don't think all the "support" is necessary. People choose to sell snakes every day, for all sorts of reasons but they don't all need these long threads thanking people for their support and wishing them well in there future keeping plans.
Cheers,
Ish
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17-Apr-08, 06:43 PM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Aug-07 Location: Adelaide Gender: | | | | i just don't think all the "support" is necessary. People choose to sell snakes every day, for all sorts of reasons but they don't all need these long threads thanking people for their support and wishing them well in there future keeping plans.
Cheers,
Ish[/quote]
It's not a matter of getting support regarding a grand exit from APS. I have other snakes, I'm not going anywhere.
I think my thread is more of a interactive chat and believe it's an interesting talking point - I'm not looking for sympathy or "support". As this is a site regarding snakes - I'm talking snakes - not too sure where you are coming from re this comment.
I look forward to other member comments re our debate. |
17-Apr-08, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovemysnakes Quote: |
Originally Posted by Spinipes damn lovemysnakes,redbellys are my favourite snake, will she settle for some mild venos like black bellied swamps or de vis? | Hmmmm - you never know! Why, you got some? | If you can't manage a red belly without hoo-haa why go onto another elapid?!
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17-Apr-08, 07:05 PM
|  | Regular Member | | | | Quote:
Originally Posted by ishka . No matter how careful you are and experienced you are a bite is always a very real posibility... your wife should have been aware of that (and if she was not then you should have made sure she was aware BEFORE you bought the snake). Yes things change but the fact that this bite was always a posibility hasn't.
Cheers,
Ish | It is, and you do consider the risks very carefully before you get into it. But sometimes you need to go through an experience first hand to really know if it's what you want. You can't know how your body's going to react to the venom. "Considering", and "experiencing" are very different, and sometimes you go into something thinking you're ready for whatever happens, but after you've gone through it, you don't want to risk going through it again. If that makes any sense at all?! 
I think a discussion like this is very beneficial for people looking at keeping elapids, and don't think he's looking for support. |
17-Apr-08, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tatelina If you can't manage a red belly without hoo-haa why go onto another elapid?! | black bellies are classed as mild venos, and on class 1 in NSW, basically their bite would only be a bee sting if not that nothing and they are a generally placid snake and regarded as harmless elapid. |
17-Apr-08, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tatelina If you can't manage a red belly without hoo-haa why go onto another elapid?! | Hello T - you're back? |
17-Apr-08, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jozz It is, and you do consider the risks very carefully before you get into it. But sometimes you need to go through an experience first hand to really know if it's what you want. You can't know how your body's going to react to the venom. "Considering", and "experiencing" are very different, and sometimes you go into something thinking you're ready for whatever happens, but after you've gone through it, you don't want to risk going through it again. If that makes any sense at all?!
I think a discussion like this is very beneficial for people looking at keeping elapids, and don't think he's looking for support. | Poetry - thanks for the SUPPORT. |
17-Apr-08, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jozz It is, and you do consider the risks very carefully before you get into it. But sometimes you need to go through an experience first hand to really know if it's what you want. You can't know how your body's going to react to the venom. "Considering", and "experiencing" are very different, and sometimes you go into something thinking you're ready for whatever happens, but after you've gone through it, you don't want to risk going through it again. If that makes any sense at all?!
I think a discussion like this is very beneficial for people looking at keeping elapids, and don't think he's looking for support. | I agree with you that condsidering and experiencing are two very different things but still if a person has given owning an elapid the right amount of consideration they would be wise not to put themself in a position to get bitten if they were not in the best of health because even though one is not to know how they will react to an envemomation it doesn't take a brain surgeon to guess that if you have some serious health problems (as seems to be the case here) the outcome is probably not going to be good (or at least not as good as for a healthy person).
I think the first thread about this topic, the actual bite thread was very informative and a very good read for anyone thinking about getting into elapids but this thread... not so much. Looking for support or not i think the endless number of quoted post with "thanks for the support" are unnecessary... but hey i have my opinon just as other have theirs.
Cheers,
Ishka
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17-Apr-08, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ishka I
I think the first thread about this topic, the actual bite thread was very informative and a very good read for anyone thinking about getting into elapids but this thread... not so much.
Cheers,
Ish | You read this thread and you contributed ??????????????????????? |
17-Apr-08, 07:46 PM
| | | Hay Lovemysnakes,sad to read this.love RBBS to get well mate |
17-Apr-08, 07:46 PM
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If your health is such in issue then that is even more of a reason for you (and your wife) to give more careful consideration before getting a ven.
| Lol, Ish, Luckily good health is not a prerequisite for owning a venomous snake, i know of a lot of keepers who would be royally pi$$ed if it was.
Personally id keep the snake...You know what they say about lightning striking twice ect..
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