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01-Feb-06, 11:44 PM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Mar-05 Location: Sydney | | | No, but I had and do have full faith in the owner of these. TRUST ME! Quote: |
i wonder how many ppl think they're going to get bitten... anyone care to take a guess?
| Thats fine mate, its not you holding them, its me so you don't need to worry.
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01-Feb-06, 11:46 PM
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Very close Gilleni Just missed one.
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01-Feb-06, 11:47 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jan-04 Location: sydeney | | | |
gilleni,
stephens=broad head
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01-Feb-06, 11:50 PM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-05 Location: Central Coast NSW Age: 22 | | | |
Ohhh, they are SO similar, In Wilson and swans guide, it is very hard to tell the diff...
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01-Feb-06, 11:50 PM
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Correct well done, I bet lots of people wouldnt be able to tell..
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02-Feb-06, 12:16 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-05 Location: Central Coast NSW Age: 22 | | | |
Worse mistakes have been made...
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02-Feb-06, 12:35 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Nov-04 Location: Fraser Coast Gender:  | | | |
Hey Pugsly,
I am going with you next time. That copperhead is so damn fine.
Simone.
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02-Feb-06, 12:48 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-05 Location: Central Coast NSW Age: 22 | | | |
Me too... but i shotgun the RBBS.
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02-Feb-06, 12:48 AM
| | Suspended | Join Date: Mar-05 Location: Sydney | | | |
Ok Simone, Ill bring ya along, was definately an experience! And to think I only wanted some diamonds shots and thats what I end up doin!
Wouldn't take it back and I would do it again.
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02-Feb-06, 03:48 AM
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You're definately a crazy illegitimate child! I'll stick to my pythons thanks 
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02-Feb-06, 05:42 AM
|  | Regular Member | Join Date: Jun-05 Location: Sydney, Aust. | | | |
Mmmm, nice snakes. Dont know whats more dangerous, free handling vens or letting your dragons drive? :wink:
I'm sure alot of people free handle elapids in the privacy of their homes. Perhaps it is best kept private, I dont know? I appreciate the pics and they do well to show elapids as the peace loving animals I believe them to be. But......my concern is not for you, rather "our" hobby. I'm sure most herpers understand the potential of negative press that would be generated toward herpetoculture if one of our own were to suffer a serious bite. If this has been considered, and you still decide to free handle, then so be it. We live in a "freeish" community and part of that is to take the good with the bad.
I see a place in our hobby for vens, but those who keep them are in a position of trust, as their actions can have an effect on us all.
I think you were after peoples opinions, so I gave mine.
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02-Feb-06, 06:28 AM
|  | Yes, that Hix Moderator | Join Date: Mar-04 Location: Sydney Gender: | | |
You went to Bobby's house! 
Hix
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02-Feb-06, 06:51 AM
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Well said Olivehydra, everyone is free to there own opinion I hold no grudges.
Yeah hix, sure did! You comin next time too!?
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02-Feb-06, 07:15 AM
|  | Sponsor | Join Date: May-04 Location: Melbourne | | | |
** My Comment **
To me free handling dangerous elapids is a bit like speeding. Most of the time you will get away with it but you will eventually get caught/bitten.
To me it sets a poor example to put up images like this without a warning indicating that these are domesticated animals used to being handled, don't try this unless you know the animals etc. etc.
Recently we were wandering through the bush near Melbourne and came across a 1.2 meter tiger snake. I started taking pictures but my 21 year old son (who should know better) tried to pick it up. After some discussion the explanation he gave was that he had seen them picked up many times on TV and knew how to do it. He also said that he was surprised when he went to tail it and the head of the snake swung around defensively.
There is a bit of a worry showing pictures like this to kids of any age who have limited first hand experience of dangerous elapids. (Particularly if they are used to a house with fairly placid pythons.) "Do what I say and not what you see others do" just does not cut it with kids.
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02-Feb-06, 07:20 AM
| | Regular Member | Join Date: Sep-05 Location: Rome (Italy) - Europe Age: 35 | | | |
NICE pics of SPECTACULAR specimens, I do not like venemous in general but some of them are really good ones. Regarding handling those snakes I respect everyone's will to do so, maybe better if emphasizing the need to be almost expertise to do it in a such way as Steve definitely is.
Just my 2%
Cheers
Stfano
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