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02-Feb-06, 07:37 AM
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Is that last one Ceasar?
oh, BTW, your actions are extremely foolhardy. I would not recommend anyone else imitate pugsley or handle vens in such a manner.
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02-Feb-06, 07:38 AM
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Well done Steve, was this your first time free handling vens? you look pretty comfortable with them. Well maybe slightly nervous in one shot! 
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02-Feb-06, 07:58 AM
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Not a stevens its a broadhead.
Youll get tagged sooner or later, fool.
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02-Feb-06, 08:27 AM
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God I love death adders!!! And that one's beautiful Pugs 
You're still a ******** though  
I don't really agree with freehandling vens...in a way I'd love to do it but the consequences of a bite just aren't gonna be fun lol.
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02-Feb-06, 08:32 AM
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Yeah point taken I should have added a "do not try this at home" sign on there, ohwell.
As for foolhardy yeah probably was!
True blue I wont get tagged sooner or later, its the one and probably only time I will be holding vens!
The gentlemen who owns these has been freehandling for 40 years and still hasnt been tagged so I wasn't real concerned.
Yes Ouzo, death adder was a bit more scary! Still a great thrill though.
But for sure, no one try this at home!
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02-Feb-06, 08:44 AM
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nice shots i love death adders especially the red ones. did he start handling them right after they hatched? i would be interested to know his method? maybe when they are really small he uses the holding them cupped in your hand method so they start associating your smell with being safe, so when you handle them they stay nice and calm.
andrew
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02-Feb-06, 08:48 AM
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Nope, just lets the snake know he isnt there to harm it, and they remain calm, quite increadible actually, of course with great care!
Look this isnt for everyone and I was expecting the "Your crazy!" responses that ok, and I in no way condone freehandling unless you know what you are doing. etc.
Just thought I would show a few vens off, I was going to cut my head out but thought bugger it lol
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02-Feb-06, 08:51 AM
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Very nice snakes mate. Its always an interesting topic and one that is bound to stir up contraversy. I have seen people free handle vens before and while i was genually concerned every second it was in their hand you have to appreciate the understanding of these people. Maybe if you have a look at it the same way as someone that works with tigers. There is always a chance of a bad day or mistake but it does not stop them from the desire to study these animals further. Mal Giddings (a highly respected marine biologist) was one of the if not the first to swin in open water with great white sharks. He said that in this way he gained a greater intimacy with an animal he had comed to love, respect and admire. Of course there is always people that say that he is foolish but i guess there is those out there that think keeping snakes is rediculous. Having said all that you are a braver man than I. Be careful mate!
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02-Feb-06, 09:08 AM
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Thanks mate appreciate that comment good stuff.
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02-Feb-06, 09:09 AM
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Firstly pugs great pictures and very impressive animals ...............But....people should know that these actions are very serious and should not be taken lightly.
IMO freehandling Elapids is fine for very experienced keepers.....But again be warned, like playing with fire it might be all fun and smiles but when somthing goes wrong it happens very quickly and turns very serious.
Speaking from experience  but JMO
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02-Feb-06, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Gilleni Me too... but i shotgun the RBBS. | ????????  : : : : :
What do you actually mean by this? 
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02-Feb-06, 09:35 AM
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Nevermind mate... nothing to serious...
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02-Feb-06, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by peterescue Quote: |
Originally Posted by Gilleni Me too... but i shotgun the RBBS. | ???????? : : : : :
What do you actually mean by this? | It just means he wants first go at the red belly.
You have to keep up with the younger generations lingo peter :wink:
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02-Feb-06, 10:03 AM
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I think he means he bags first hold of the red belly Pete
I've handled a few vens here and there, but I will say if I'd ever been bitten, it'd be due to my own dumb fault. There is a hell of a buzz attached to freehandling these animals, but that's mainly due to tempting fate Complacency is generally where people come undone IMHO.
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02-Feb-06, 10:26 AM
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pugsly i no of two people that free handeled RBBS and a tiger at a herp meeting. NPWS didnt think it was very clever they had to explain them selfs, and why they should have a license!
do what you want in your own home dont show it in public. yong kids look at this site, they dont nessaserally (spelling) read it they look at pics. young kids copy stuff. just IMO
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