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02-Feb-06, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dugadugabowbow i can't wait until people like you end up in hospital in intensive care, now that would be funny  | A touch lame that comment 
If he chooses to free handle vens under the supervision of an experienced keeper then thats his deal. Everything in life is a risk. Thats like saying cos you drive a car I can't wait to see you get in a crash and be in intensive care.
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02-Feb-06, 04:45 PM
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"WOW pugsly you are such a big man, so brave! I'm in awe of your greatness, you really must know what your doing, one question though, if you wanted to show off vens why didn't you take some pics of them on the ground? "
Well thats what I went there for until he asked if I wanted a hold. Its not about being brave mate, I know PLENTY of people who have done this, they stay quiet thats there choice, do I think I am a big man, well 6'3" and 100kg, yeah I probably am. Do I know what I am doing, no, but did I do everything I was told to do, yes.
"Particularly that death adder, that was so smart, i can't wait until people like you end up in hospital in intensive care, now that would be funny."
Ahhh why APS is so unique comments like these.. Sorry I forgot you are the most experienced reptile keeper on earth i forgot my mistake. If me ending up in intensive care is amusing to you, then mate I think you are the one with problems!
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02-Feb-06, 04:48 PM
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On another note, I was going to say this was a very interesting thread and thanks to the contributors bar one person who finds people in intensive care funny.. 
Thanks for the photos too, Love the mullet sensational!
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02-Feb-06, 04:53 PM
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Posting pictures of yourself casually handling a crap load of some of the worlds most deadly elapids and right upto your face in many cases on a site full of young(and even old) and very Naieve(sp?) herpers is not very bright! And you've got to be kidding me if you think a dislamer turns you off, they do nothing, I was once a person who fits the description above, you don't think it'll happen to you and seeing a person calmly and without fail boosts your encouragement to do so.
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02-Feb-06, 05:01 PM
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why is everyone in the photos looking at the camera instead of the potential death sentence in their hands?
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02-Feb-06, 05:02 PM
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Thats fine mate I acknowledge that, it wont happen to me because of two things:
a) it didnt
b) I dont plan to keep vens and don't think I have the need to hold them it was just a one off.
The disclaimer is only because a few members got all upset, I didnt bother originally because of your point.
Everyone can have there own opinion thats fine, but when you start finding it funny that people are in intensive care, well thats just downright disturbing, if it was ever to happen to someone he knows, he will be regreting that comment.
I love APS!
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02-Feb-06, 05:15 PM
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You knew you'd get this reaction....people that have kept vens for years don't post pictures up of themselves holding them...you are giving Bob a bad name. I wonder how Bob would feel if he knew that a person that has never kept vens posted up his picture of himself holding them at Bob's house on the world wide web for all to see, you even mentioned his name.
you are a law student, you know by doing this that you aren't being smart, and adding your disclaimer later shows that as well.
The thing is our hobby needs all the help it can get, there are many parties and bodies that would like to outlaw the keeping of reptiles. If you had gotten bitten, you would have been in the media like everyone else lately has been...and the fact that you were at a keeper's house holding them of your own free will would have put up the debate again, should these people be keeping reptiles? You know how most people think about snakes...a lot don't need much of an exuse.
And also the fact that if one of them had hit you, you would be costing the tax payers upwards of a $1000 dollars to fix something stupid that you decided to do yourself. Think about how that looks.
And when duga said funny, he meant it's like those people on funniest home videos and the like that film themselves doing something incredibly stupid and dangerous and end up getting hurt. You sit there and laugh because it's just so stupid and you wonder if they were born with brains.
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02-Feb-06, 05:19 PM
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by the way Stevo i don't think thats stupid, did they have funny looking scars up the side of their heads
Does that mean im not so tuff afterall?????
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02-Feb-06, 05:29 PM
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You knew you'd get this reaction....people that have kept vens for years don't post pictures up of themselves holding them...you are giving Bob a bad name. I wonder how Bob would feel if he knew that a person that has never kept vens posted up his picture of himself holding them at Bob's house on the world wide web for all to see, you even mentioned his name.
| mmm lets see No, I wasnt the one who mentioned his name..
Yes Bob knew exactly what I was doing I was even speaking to him as the replies came through! He took the photos and told me to put the good ones up on the net. So i did. We both new that there would be these responses and I have never complained about anyone calling me an idiot or crazy, or a richard cranium lol Quote: |
you are a law student, you know by doing this that you aren't being smart, and adding your disclaimer later shows that as well.
| Correct, there is no need for a disclaimer, if I see someone swimming with sharks do I just jump in? I see Steve Erwin wrestling crocodiles, yeah he puts a disclaimer up, so, maybe I dont see it, do I do it? someone gets away with murder in a movie so do I go out and try it? NO
If people are stupid like me then thats there problem, you have made your point about younger people watching, and thats fine! So, move on. Quote: |
And when duga said funny, he meant it's like those people on funniest home videos and the like that film themselves doing something incredibly stupid and dangerous and end up getting hurt. You sit there and laugh because it's just so stupid and you wonder if they were born with brains.
| Yeah, sure he did. Even so, being in intensive care after a snake bite is a little different to being hit in the nuts with a cricket bat.. Your kidding arent you.
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02-Feb-06, 05:31 PM
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HAHAHA we have our first hell man!
Yes if you did get bitten from stupid unecessary handling then yeah i would laugh.
I may have problems but as you said i am the most exprienced keeper here so i don't really care.
PMSL Stevo just don't tell anyone you be the toughest bloke around 
Cheers
Steve aka dugadugabowbow
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02-Feb-06, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsly if I thought I was going to get bitten I wouldnt have done it! | But thats just it Pugsly, you dont know when you're about to get bitten. In case you haven't heard, snakes are UNPREDICTABLE!!!
But anyway, you enjoyed yourself and i guess for now thats all that matters :wink: I'm not going to tell you you're an idiot because i dont think you are. You're a person with a great passion for these animals, and sometimes that passion can be very hard to fight back!! Who am i to tell you what to do, i'm guilty of free handling venomous snakes, most especially wild ones back in my early teens . Thankfully though, free handling venomous snakes is a childish phase i quickly grew out of!!
Not knocking you at all Pugsly...i'm seriously glad you enjoyed it 
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02-Feb-06, 05:32 PM
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Seems we have a mixed response, which is good, I love a good debate, some good points some terrible points, in the end we all learnt something, Pugs is a crazy illegitimate child! Oh yeah and kids Don't try this at home because apparently its all my fault if you do.
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02-Feb-06, 05:35 PM
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Thanks Serp, see I love posts like that, simple, friendly, and honest.
And yes I did enjoy myself mate. I would be glad to go back and this time photograph them on the lawn! (Maybe lol)
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02-Feb-06, 05:37 PM
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Why can't we all just love each other?
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02-Feb-06, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsly do I think I am a big man, well 6'3" and 100kg | 100kg? Dude is that fat or muscle? I'm only 67kg, no fat!!!
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