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01-May-06, 09:19 AM
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What's this TWP that's been mentioned a couple of times? Quote: |
Does anyone have any idea what it is about them that makes them do so poorly in captivity?
| I've heard that they're very sensitive to stress.
IMO if that's the case they shouldn't be used as demo's in public shows.
That fact that it died shortly after the show may illustrate this vulnerability.
No offence meant to you at all Hugsta, as you look like you're holding it well supported, gently & with respect.
Reptiles often don't show any obvious signs that they're stressed.
With respect to the well-meaning organizers, IMO the Oenpelli's should be a look but don't touch species.
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01-May-06, 09:22 AM
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Territory Wildlife Park, Zen.
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01-May-06, 09:41 AM
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I agree zen, because of their known stress levels, that animal should never of been dragged around the country to dispay and let people play with it. Could well be the reason behind it passing away.?
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01-May-06, 09:47 AM
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That would seem to be the logcal conclusion to come to Blue. Especially if the animal in question came from the wild (please correct me if I have that wrong) and had lived most of it's life with little or no human contact.
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01-May-06, 09:59 AM
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I believe that that particular animal did die of a stress-related illness. I don't know what animal wouldn't after being molested by hugsta though!  :wink:
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01-May-06, 10:12 AM
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I believe Peter Kruass (?) has been the only person in Oz to breed them, then they were confiscated off him and given to the TWP.
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01-May-06, 10:14 AM
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iv'e only ever seen the ones at the territory wild life park, beutiful animal is all i can say
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nah i dont want one of these
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01-May-06, 11:13 AM
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Thanks for confirming that Austrelaps.
Damn shame  Such a beautiful animal.
It just confirms that they're extremely sensitive to stress and therefore handling should be kept to an absolute minimum.
Thanks Dicco for the translation.
I hope Territory Wildlife Park learns from this & doesn't let any more Oenpelli's suffer the same fate.
They only have a few from what I've heard.
Jason, why the hell did they take Peter's Oenpellis of him if he was having success with them?
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01-May-06, 11:16 AM
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That is the Question????
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01-May-06, 11:19 AM
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:roll:
Probably the same "reason" that they took GTP's of herpers that were having good success breeding them!
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01-May-06, 11:23 AM
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Yes, because nobody breeds better than a zoo...
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01-May-06, 01:14 PM
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Zen,- because i belive they were clasified as tanted fauna.
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01-May-06, 02:17 PM
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I assume you mean tainted fauna TrueBlue, but what could possibly be tainted about them?
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01-May-06, 03:59 PM
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youd have to ask the parties involed about that one.
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01-May-06, 04:55 PM
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That particular animal died from a respiratory ailment, related probably to stress of travel, too much handling, and also the fact that while it was in Sydney I'm told it was kept unheated at night in the Blue Mountains where the keeper responsible for the whole exercise (ha!) was staying. Fairly common knowledge in the Territory, someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
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