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18-Sep-08, 01:35 PM
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I've noticed the more I see hatchling Olive pythons the more I'm seeing under-bite's. Is this common with olive hatchlings? is it something that grows out of them? An interbred problem maybe? By under-bite I mean the lower jaw isn't as long as the top jaw.
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18-Sep-08, 01:56 PM
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My boy seems fine and both his jaws look normal.
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18-Sep-08, 03:02 PM
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i aint seen a massive amount of olive hatchoes but the ones i have seen have all been ok no underbite at all
neither have any of the adults maybe some pics of the ones your talking about and maybe some background on the linage??
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18-Sep-08, 03:21 PM
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Do you mean like noticeable a lot shorter than the top jaw? Mine look normal, but aren't their bottom jaw meant to sit inside their top jaw. Here's a couple pics of mine but they aren't babies. They bit under 8 foot long. Perhaps you could post some pics to show us what you're talking about. Then I can look out for it in my babies when I breed mine.
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18-Sep-08, 04:18 PM
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Ive bred heaps of olives and all are normal.
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18-Sep-08, 04:48 PM
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can't get the pics because it's been over a period of time but all coming from the same place. They have been through a petshop and I went there today too see if their new lot of olive had this underbite but all seem normal.
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18-Sep-08, 05:38 PM
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i'm gonna be anal here, but what you're talking about is technically an over bite. but, yeah i know what you mean
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18-Sep-08, 05:49 PM
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Actually Fennwick isn't an over-bite when the bottom jaw comes over the top jaw?
Or no, undershot means that eh? So maybe you're right. Underbite might be the same  ah well, we knew what he meant
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Last edited by mysnakesau; 18-Sep-08 at 05:55 PM.
Reason: added thoughts
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18-Sep-08, 06:57 PM
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I have a female (about 8 mths old) that appears to slightly suffer from the same, however the male I bought from the same breeder looks fine. It is only minor, and as she grows I think the so-called underbite is diminishing. I also had trouble with her eating although she is seriously on the improve.
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18-Sep-08, 08:05 PM
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I have noticed this recently as well (in a pet shop)...Hmm very strange
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10-Oct-08, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by garthy  I have a female (about 8 mths old) that appears to slightly suffer from the same, however the male I bought from the same breeder looks fine. It is only minor, and as she grows I think the so-called underbite is diminishing. I also had trouble with her eating although she is seriously on the improve. |
Her underbite (or overbite) has completely disappeared now.
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10-Oct-08, 12:49 PM
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one of my females bottom jaw does it after she bit me few times but it goes back to normal
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10-Oct-08, 01:19 PM
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I have seen it quite a few times over the years, and yes its always with Olives. It has nothing to do with inbreeding as totally unrelated parents throw it. Its just something for some strange reason happens to a hatchling. Unless its servere they appear to grow out of it.
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10-Oct-08, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by garthy Her underbite (or overbite) has completely disappeared now. | mind you her bite hasn't
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10-Oct-08, 07:39 PM
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Ive heard about this in Olives. Its actually from a specific locality of Olives. I think theyre calling them Western Suburbs Olives'
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