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11-Jan-07, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by python blue  just curious can u ever mind ur bisseness ok its mine i can do wat ever with it ok so how about u stopp harrasing me ok | Im not wanting to harras you mate, and i havnt said anyting nasty about yourself or that animal, i just dont want to see anyone mislead into think its a Diamond python, because you or mitch diamond or who ever the person is who owns it doesnt want to be honest when selling it.
Im sure even the people who like hybrids would have something to say about people advertising hybrids as anything other than what they are "hybrids".
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11-Jan-07, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by python blue dee4 because if the animals were collected from the wild like this and then when there been breed over and over again its a natural intergrade |
I must have to ask you the same question....  How can you get a natural intergrade if it has been breed in captivity, even over and over again???? 
Wouldn't natural intergrade only be in the wild and not in captivity????
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11-Jan-07, 09:38 PM
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Dee4,
Natural intergrades is just the label give to a "form" (for lack of a better word)of Carpet python, what some call a Port Mac Carpet etc... just like a "Brisbane Coastal" is a locality type of Coastal Carpet python.
You cant create a "natural intergrade" by breeding a Diamond x Coastal over and over again for generations then call it a "Natural intergrade".
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11-Jan-07, 09:44 PM
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Yeh, I know that but I wanted the others to explain how they will sell natural intergrades bred in captivity.
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11-Jan-07, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dee4 Yeh, I know that but I wanted the others to explain how they will sell natural intergrades bred in captivity. |
Sorry,
Well i imagine they will just call them "natural intergrades" because either someone told them they are, or they just dont know any better.
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11-Jan-07, 09:47 PM
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Or they are just plain stupid  |
11-Jan-07, 09:50 PM
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Nope, i just got a email reply, its seems its actually a "pure" diamond after all, thanks for your honesty.
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11-Jan-07, 09:53 PM
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11-Jan-07, 09:55 PM
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yeah, so much for all the above claims that it will be sold as it is................ got to love those hybrids......
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12-Jan-07, 08:03 AM
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i know....lol
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12-Jan-07, 08:31 AM
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Can somebody tell me how you can tell a diamond python is 100% pure by
looking at it ??
I've always wanted to know this, as I'm a bit slow & thick when it comes to identification ??
I know of a breeder who has " perfect looking Diamonds " - won club comps to prove a piont, then let everybody know that one off the parents was a intergrade 1 generation ago !!!
He's no longer a member of that club or this site.
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12-Jan-07, 09:02 AM
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Just wanted to add my opinion. Its only in Australia that there is such an issue with a snake being pure or not. The rest of the world is a lot less narrow minded about things like that. An animals genetic origin can not be established by just looking at it, its even less likely to tell if an animal is species true due to its colour.The only way it can be assessed is by genetic testing, and i have found that in Australia (within the herp community) there are lots of animals with questionable origin. So unless you caught it in the bush originally you would not know for sure!!! I wish people would get of their high horses about this hole purity issue and appreciate snakes in captivity for what they are worth!!!! They are snakes in captivity! Never to be released back into the wild unless someone is negligent enough to leave their cages unlocked. The hobby will change in the next few years and have started changing already!!!!
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12-Jan-07, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Morelia_Hunter Just wanted to add my opinion. Its only in Australia that there is such an issue with a snake being pure or not. The rest of the world is a lot less narrow minded about things like that. An animals genetic origin can not be established by just looking at it, its even less likely to tell if an animal is species true due to its colour.The only way it can be assessed is by genetic testing, and i have found that in Australia (within the herp community) there are lots of animals with questionable origin. So unless you caught it in the bush originally you would not know for sure!!! I wish people would get of their high horses about this hole purity issue and appreciate snakes in captivity for what they are worth!!!! They are snakes in captivity! Never to be released back into the wild unless someone is negligent enough to leave their cages unlocked. The hobby will change in the next few years and have started changing already!!!! | You're missing the point. We're angry about hybrids for this reason, that it's getting harder and harder to tell what's pure, and it really shouldn't be like this.
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12-Jan-07, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by thenothing The coastal shows through quite a lot. Are hybrids like that worth $600? | ITS NOT A HYBRID.
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12-Jan-07, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by junglist* ITS NOT A HYBRID. | Uhm.. yeah, if you say so.
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